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[Godscreated]

So this user has one post, and hasn’t logged in since their initial post. The post is also a clear theological issue that is ill-suited to this audience.

I have to question the motives of the poster and if they were sincere.

I agree and it is beginning to smell like a sock, a sweaty one at that.

GC

[Amarok]

Or he simply came to ask one question and has not returned yet

[Angrboda]

Great, Drich, someone comes to you telling you they're anxious and depressed, and your response is to call them a failure. And you wonder why people think you are an insensitive ass who knows nothing about human nature.

[Brian37]

Hi,
I'm here out of desperation.  I'm hoping someone can help me.  I thought I was saved (a Christian) for 11 years.  In that time, everything I did was for God.  Then I pray this prayer, asking God to show me what was causing my long-term anxiety and depression.  Do you know what He shows me?!  He shows me that I was never really saved in the first place and that I never can be because I got married when He told me not to.  I did exactly what the Rich Young Ruler in the Bible did if you don't mind looking up the story.  I have had anxiety and depression ever since I have been together with my husband so I know this relationship was not God's will.  I remember God telling me that I would go to hell if I married him but I didn't believe Him because that sounds ridiculous.  Also, I thought you got saved by believing that Christ died for your sins, which I did do before I married my husband.  Upon further study of the scriptures there are TONS of conditions you have to meet in order to be saved.  There are SO MANY works, yet Christians say it's not by works.  Christians say that salvation is FREE but they are LIARS because salvation is NOT free.  Only those willing to pay the price get to go to heaven and that number is few.  I am so pissed.  I even went to my pastor and his wife before I got married for help because I was unsure of my salvation as well as the marriage I was about to enter into.  I need help.  When I first found out I was going to hell, I cried in my room for 2 years.  I've spent this 3rd year trying unsuccessfully to learn how to function again.  I have 4 beautiful children who need me.  I wish I could just become and atheist and be done with this but I can't.  I had actual encounters with God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit.  I can't deny Him.  I can't walk around disabled, unable to function, and hyperventilating all the day long.  I didn't know God was so cruel.  Please help me, I don't know what to do. I need to live a good & productive life.

Cruelty and kindness are human behaviors, products of evolution. There is no sky wizard or ground villain manipulating the neurons in our brains forcing humans to do either. It is still up to humans how we choose to interact.


You did not have interactions with anything but your own brain.

[Godscreated]

Or he simply came to ask one question and has not returned yet

It's apparent you have not read the original OP.

GC

[LastPoet]

It seems drive by posting. Lemme check

[Amarok]

Or he simply came to ask one question and has not returned yet

It's apparent you have not read the original OP.

GC

Accept I did and his statement seems to grind down to the question about what to do about his belief he's going to hell, And he has yet to return .

[LastPoet]

Yeah, that user made the same post at Christian Forums: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.christi...8/%3famp=1

At least its a better venue for the questions. Atheists sure can point to a therapist, but we are not well versed in undertanding what a god is.

Still a hit & run there too.

[LastPoet]

Accept I did and his statement seems to grind down to the question about what to do about his belief he's going to hell, And he has yet to return .

Drive by post, shooting bollocks as amno. Word by word it was posted on CF.

It doesn't constitute spamming because there are no links and its a single post.

[Drich]

Great, Drich, someone comes to you telling you they're anxious and depressed, and your response is to call them a failure.  And you wonder why people think you are an insensitive ass who knows nothing about human nature.

Sorry I deal with the truth. I am extending the same "fix" i wanted to see and hear when I was in this person's spot. what I got were probably all the platitudes you guys expect and want to hear. Which to me is garbage. As at best may make you feel better for the moment but in the end you are where you where when you first sought help. I am bringing direction and opportunity to find what they seek. if this person wants the truth she/he already knows they failed. (hence the predetermination of going to hell despite what the bible teaches.) So go on this predetermined self diagnosed failure, I purposed a fixable alternative as apposed to eternal hell fire they have prescribed for themselves!! I am providing a way out, to the God they know to be there. 

I can't express how frustrating it is to know God in there but remains silent. Most people in this situation assume or always seem to offer up their salvation as to the reason why God is silent. But as Jesus Himself taught this is not the reason. The parable of the wise and foolish builder gives us the reason why this person and most of you hit a wall of silence when you were desperate and reached out to nothing. God is sending a trial/wind and rain to test your faith and your understanding of Him. Cry out to your god and see if he answers... if not then it should be obvious the god you have pictured in your mind is not the God of the bible. Pride is what makes some stay in the church but sit in silence pride in their religion and the assumption that they found god by being born into the right religion. Again salvation not with standing as many are saved through Christ despite themselves and their religious choices! This same pride also tells the honest others that they cried out to whom they thought were god and left the church because they too assumed that their first or second religious attempt yielded nothing but silence.

I also separated the idea of salvation and relationship in that most of you could technically be saved and yet have no relationship with God(the gift of be able to reach out and he reach back to you.) Whether this person knows it or not this is what they want. not just salvation.