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RE: "1 white steak; medium-rare".
February 7, 2019 at 2:27 pm
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I'm legitimately astonished that with the neverending mountain of problems we have in the west, you routinely fail to present examples that are anything more or less than spider-brained rambling.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: "1 white steak; medium-rare".
February 7, 2019 at 5:34 pm
And I am astonished that an old story about a Japanese cannibal is somehow linked to the persecution of Muslims. I know that every time I think about the resurgence of violence in Northern Ireland, I get so mad at 14th century Florentine merchants that I can't think straight.
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RE: "1 white steak; medium-rare".
February 7, 2019 at 5:57 pm
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(February 7, 2019 at 1:39 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: Quote:Issei Sagawa (佐川 一政 Sagawa Issei, born April 26, 1949)[1] also known as Pang, is a Japanese man who, while living in Paris in 1981, killed and cannibalized a Dutch woman named Renée Hartevelt. After his release from two years of pre-trial detention upon being found legally insane, he became a minor celebrity in Japan and made a living through public interest.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Issei_Sagawa
How the hell can a cannibal make it through, and stay alive for all these years?
Is this an indication that the world's law enforcement -especially the western law enforcement) just doesn't give a fuck until money and oil are involved?
How does a Muslim get beaten and stripped out of a plane just for having a beard; while cannibal maniacs roam the west?
How did Issei cook the Dutch woman? did he add spices to the human meat or just had it raw?
Quote:On June 11, 1981, Sagawa, then 32, invited his Sorbonne classmate Renée Hartevelt to dinner at his apartment under the pretext of translating poetry for a school assignment. He planned to kill and eat her, having selected her for her health and beauty
What the fuck?
What the fucking fuck?
To my surprise, this doesn't cross me as shocking at all. Eating other humans is not very shocking, until you find somebody who IGNORES such incidents and take their sick beef with Muslims; claiming they are "the worst people on earth".
If the cannibal was Muslim; we would've heard all kinds of farts from media agencies; whining that "Muslims are so ugly and bad...we must invade them".
Atlass, for one second leave the labels, religions and nationalities out of it.
I AGREE it is fucked up.
In my 52 years, even prior to the internet, I have seen plenty of fucked up stories about what humans do.
This fucking sicko not only murdered his victims, BUT ATE THEM!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Dahmer
Ok, but that was a serial killer?
How about a guy named John Wayne Gacy?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wayne_Gacy
How about a sicko named Ted Bundy?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Bundy
This sicko is especially evil to me. This fucker not only killed an entire family, he took the boy and girl to the basement and hung them naked, while masturbating.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Rader
Now, after you look at their pictures, notice a common link? They were all white and American born. That does not mean I like them, I hate sickos like that. But whatever goes on on my side of the world does not make Isis heros by default. It does not make Saudi or Iran leaders good by default.
But Hitler murdered 6 million Jews selling the idea that they were evil and convinced a Christian majority nation to follow him.
Stalin also was an evil fuck, so was Po Pot, so are the Kim family who rule North Korea.
Nothing about human cruelty surprises me. And while I feel for your position, please do not claim Muslims are victims 100% of the time, while at the same time complaining RIGHTFULLY about the Muslim rule above you don't like.
White people, white Christians and Jews and Buddhists and anyone of any label, worldwide, be it a serial killer, or world leader, are all capable of cruelty to others. The good thing about our species at the same time, is that we can be quite compassionate too.
Point is, there are bad people worldwide, bad leaders worldwide, but there are also good people worldwide, so instead of focusing on humanity's monsters, focus on those in humanity who point out the monsters, both foreign and domestic.
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RE: "1 white steak; medium-rare".
February 7, 2019 at 6:00 pm
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Quote:Point is, there are bad people worldwide, bad leaders worldwide, but there are also good people worldwide, so instead of focusing on humanity's monsters, focus on those in humanity who point out the monsters, both foreign and domestic.
Yeah, but it only REALLY matters when bad things happen to Muslims.
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RE: "1 white steak; medium-rare".
February 7, 2019 at 6:09 pm
(February 7, 2019 at 6:00 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Quote:Point is, there are bad people worldwide, bad leaders worldwide, but there are also good people worldwide, so instead of focusing on humanity's monsters, focus on those in humanity who point out the monsters, both foreign and domestic.
Yeah, but it only REALLY matters when bad things happen to Muslims.
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I do have empathy for him, not because he is Muslim, but because he is a fellow human being.
I have the same empathy for Jews who suffered during the Holocaust, but hate Bibi. I have the same empathy for him as I do Kurdish Christians, but hate the KKK here whom are a Christian based organization. I have empathy for Malala, but not Bin Laden.
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RE: "1 white steak; medium-rare".
February 7, 2019 at 6:13 pm
(February 7, 2019 at 6:09 pm)Brian37 Wrote: (February 7, 2019 at 6:00 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Yeah, but it only REALLY matters when bad things happen to Muslims.
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I do have empathy for him, not because he is Muslim, but because he is a fellow human being.
I have the same empathy for Jews who suffered during the Holocaust, but hate Bibi. I have the same empathy for him as I do Kurdish Christians, but hate the KKK here whom are a Christian based organization. I have empathy for Malala, but not Bin Laden.
Yeah, I don't really care about who you empathize with or hate or don't hate. I was making the point that Atlas can't seem to discuss anything without boo-hooing the way some Muslims are treat. The victim card gets old after a while.
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RE: "1 white steak; medium-rare".
February 7, 2019 at 6:18 pm
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You know..if he woke up tomorrow and the great satan was gone..just...gone, empty fields....it would be earth shattering to his worldview.
How could he explain the fact that his local potentate was killing people, then?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: "1 white steak; medium-rare".
February 7, 2019 at 6:18 pm
(February 7, 2019 at 6:13 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (February 7, 2019 at 6:09 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Boru
I do have empathy for him, not because he is Muslim, but because he is a fellow human being.
I have the same empathy for Jews who suffered during the Holocaust, but hate Bibi. I have the same empathy for him as I do Kurdish Christians, but hate the KKK here whom are a Christian based organization. I have empathy for Malala, but not Bin Laden.
Yeah, I don't really care about who you empathize with or hate or don't hate. I was making the point that Atlas can't seem to discuss anything without boo-hooing the way some Muslims are treat. The victim card gets old after a while.
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He lives under a brutal dictatorship. I think he has a right to bitch. I am only pointing out that while rightfully bitching, you and I don't live in a theocracy, he does.
My only point to him while rightfully bitching about his rulers, don't assume everyone in the west wants to kill him personally. We may be a more open society and I'd agree with that, but we have our dicks too.
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RE: "1 white steak; medium-rare".
February 7, 2019 at 6:20 pm
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He thinks that you're his ruler, Brian. MBS is phoning a friend before he has some hooker murdered..and that friend is you, lol. Some japanese cannibal released by japanese authorites just proves it..somehow!
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: "1 white steak; medium-rare".
February 7, 2019 at 6:37 pm
(February 7, 2019 at 6:20 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: He thinks that you're his ruler, Brian. MBS is phoning a friend before he has some hooker murdered..and that friend is you, lol. Some japanese cannibal released by japanese authorites just proves it..somehow!
Cut him some slack.
It is easy for us in the west to armchair quarterback when we are not the ones living under close the fear he puts up with every day.
I am not saying he is right about everything, he is not.
I don't care if you are a Palestinian fearing an Israeli strike, or an Israeli fearing a Palestinian rocket. When humans in general face trauma, especially on a regular basis, it is going to mentally screw them up.
Even in America, I ran into a Gulf War Vet at a bar. Pasty white guy. But, just like Nam vets, this guy couldn't tell the difference between the objection to politics and personal service. That guy scared the shit out of me. I backed off very quickly because I could tell that what he saw had mentally screwed him up so bad he couldn't reason well. All he knew was that his buddies were killed in front of him.
Soldier, kid, civilian, it does not matter what side, friend or foe, crime or war, trauma affects humans and can skew their perceptions and fuck up their logic.
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