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Feel the Bern
#31
RE: Feel the Bern
(February 20, 2019 at 8:45 pm)Jackalope Wrote: The decades-long character assassination and endless, pointless, and fruitless investigations sure didn't help either.

It is a little weird that people keep averting their gaze from the obvious. Heck, a lot of women saw her as a woman who rode up on her husband's coat tails. She never won a competitive race. Her New York senate seat was basically pulled out for her to sit down in. She is not a strong campaigner. And then there is the whole thing with the whole base being pretty burned out on the New Dems. And then there is the whole thing about the party putting its thumb on the scale for her in the primaries. Those are strong reasons to be less than thrilled with her.

It's not fair that Bernie's reputation is tarnished by her having screwed up so badly.
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#32
RE: Feel the Bern
(February 20, 2019 at 8:57 pm)Yonadav Wrote:
(February 20, 2019 at 8:45 pm)Jackalope Wrote: The decades-long character assassination and endless, pointless, and fruitless investigations sure didn't help either.

It is a little weird that people keep averting their gaze from the obvious. Heck, a lot of women saw her as a woman who rode up on her husband's coat tails. She never won a competitive race. Her New York senate seat was basically pulled out for her to sit down in. She is not a strong campaigner. And then there is the whole thing with the whole base being pretty burned out on the New Dems. And then there is the whole thing about the party putting its thumb on the scale for her in the primaries. Those are strong reasons to be less than thrilled with her.

It's not fair that Bernie's reputation is tarnished by her having screwed up so badly.


Bernie’s reputation is tarnished by worsening the effects of her screwing up. Badly is a description of the result, not of the misjudgement.
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#33
RE: Feel the Bern
Nah, I'm not feeling the Bern.

I suppose I'd grit my teeth and vote for him in 2020 if he were to win the Democratic nomination, though.
Then I'd go home and hunker down for another four years of Trump, lol.
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#34
RE: Feel the Bern
(February 20, 2019 at 9:09 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:
(February 20, 2019 at 8:57 pm)Yonadav Wrote: It is a little weird that people keep averting their gaze from the obvious. Heck, a lot of women saw her as a woman who rode up on her husband's coat tails. She never won a competitive race. Her New York senate seat was basically pulled out for her to sit down in. She is not a strong campaigner. And then there is the whole thing with the whole base being pretty burned out on the New Dems. And then there is the whole thing about the party putting its thumb on the scale for her in the primaries. Those are strong reasons to be less than thrilled with her.

It's not fair that Bernie's reputation is tarnished by her having screwed up so badly.


Bernie’s reputation is tarnished by worsening the effects of her screwing up.   Badly is a description of the result, not of the misjudgement.

Bernie didn't worsen the effects of her screwing up. Bernie certainly isn't responsible for the thumb being placed on the scale for Hillary. It was Hillary and the corrupt machinery of the Democratic Party that did that all by themselves. 'Twas the thumb on the scale that created the acrimony, not Bernie. Hillary could have come through with the nomination a lot cleaner without the corruption which of course looked bad on her, what with being corruption and all.
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#35
RE: Feel the Bern
If the democrats believe result is nothing and being right is everything, then I will grit my teeth and vote for bern too, since what would it matter then when another trump presidency would already be doomed to be?
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#36
RE: Feel the Bern
You guys deserve Trump. I don't. But you so totally deserve it.
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#37
RE: Feel the Bern
(February 20, 2019 at 8:45 pm)Jackalope Wrote: The decades-long character assassination and endless, pointless, and fruitless investigations sure didn't help either.

Attacking Bernie or Hillary is character assassination, calling the orange turd a fuckface bully is an apt description.
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#38
RE: Feel the Bern
(February 19, 2019 at 11:52 am)Yonadav Wrote: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/ber...n-kickoff/

I listened to their podcast on him yesterday.
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#39
RE: Feel the Bern
How did Bernie worsen the effects? He ran for a nom and lost. Then, he supported her. Passing the buck is a bitch move.
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#40
RE: Feel the Bern
(February 21, 2019 at 12:55 pm)Shell B Wrote: How did Bernie worsen the effects? He ran for a nom and lost. Then, he supported her. Passing the buck is a bitch move.

Yeah, by their logic, Hillary made Obama look bad. Oh, wait a minute. Obama's thumb wasn't caught on the scale, so he didn't look bad.
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