[Serious] What would you want in a church

[Aliza]

Rather than asking for the endless list of things most of the site will list that they don't like about "church" or religion, or focusing on the belief in God or which God, etc.
I'd like to know if a new Church denomination of Christians (meaning followers of Christ and the Abrahamic God) were to start a "new church"

what are 3 things you'd like to see in the church statements dictating church behavior and beliefs / what are 3 things you'd definitely not want to see in the  "rules of the church"?

Rule 1: Never ring my doorbell.
Rule 2: Never call or text my phone.
Rule 3: Never mail me anything or put fliers on my door.

Your internal activities are otherwise of no consequence to me.

[Drich]

Those who can... do.

Those who can't do, teach..

Those who can't teach... grade papers or the work of greater people

Just thought you'd like to know that.. how the world sees the true life statler and waldorfs of this world.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Those who can... do.

Those who can't do, teach..

Those who can't teach... grade papers or the work of greater people

Just thought you'd like to know that.. how the world sees the true life statler and waldorfs of this world.

Yeah, I've heard this before.  It's generally used by the wretchedly ignorant as a defense mechanism for their own inadequacies.  Your use of it is no exception.

Boru

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

An apology:

This is a serious thread.  I managed to let Drich bait me into sniping, which is contrary to the spirit of [Serious].  Won't happen again.

Boru

[Athene]

For them to observe all applicable federal/state laws and local ordinances? I don't know.
I have zero interest in church.

It's like asking me what I'd want and wouldn't want out of a Furry convention.
How churches conduct day-to-day business is secondary to the fact that I'm a non-believer and have absolutely no reason to be there.

Besides, the bits that I DID take issue with when I was a believer regarding women's role in the church are Biblically justified. 
Lol...There's nothing I can suggest that wouldn't amount to heresy.

[tackattack]

For them to observe all applicable federal/state laws and local ordinances? I don't know.
I have zero interest in church.

It's like asking me what I'd want and wouldn't want out of a Furry convention.
How churches conduct day-to-day business is secondary to the fact that I'm a non-believer and have absolutely no reason to be there.

Besides, the bits that I DID take issue with when I was a believer regarding women's role in the church are Biblically justified. 
Lol...There's nothing I can suggest that wouldn't amount to heresy.

What issues DID you have issues with regarding women. It's all just a thought experiment so all suggestions welcome.

[Athene]

For them to observe all applicable federal/state laws and local ordinances? I don't know.
I have zero interest in church.

It's like asking me what I'd want and wouldn't want out of a Furry convention.
How churches conduct day-to-day business is secondary to the fact that I'm a non-believer and have absolutely no reason to be there.

Besides, the bits that I DID take issue with when I was a believer regarding women's role in the church are Biblically justified. 
Lol...There's nothing I can suggest that wouldn't amount to heresy.

What issues DID you have issues with regarding women. It's all just a thought experiment so all suggestions welcome.

I assume this is not the case with all denominations, but in my former church and many others, women are unable to sit on church councils and be given any official authority as far as making major decisions are concerned.

However, my former church is perfectly comfortable exploiting the shit out of women's time, talent and skills otherwise. Women (mostly CPA's) do ALL of the bookkeeping and accounting...free of charge, of course. They know the ins and outs about every dime that runs through the church and are free to make all of the suggestions they want, but they are barred from casting an official VOTE when it comes time to determine how money will be allotted and spent.

And the truth of the matter is, churches can easily defer to Scripture to back the practice up. To allow otherwise would be in clear defiance of "the Word of God". 
There's no escaping that.
Cause, you know....Cherrypicking's just not an option when it comes to certain matters.

It presents quite a conundrum for sharp, capable lady churchgoers who happen to be True Believers. Their only options are to seek or start churches that adopt heretical stances, forgo organized fellowship, or to simply grit their teeth and learn to accept being second-class in the eyes of the church and the Bible.

Anyhoo....Not my problem.
Lol

[Drich]

An apology:

This is a serious thread.  I managed to let Drich bait me into sniping, which is contrary to the spirit of [Serious].  Won't happen again.

Boru

I too want to apologize for the same disruption. I did not know giving someone a kudo would or could potentially derail a whole thread.

[tackattack]

[Athene]