No reason justifies disbelief.

[The Grand Nudger]

You're the one who wanted to talk about holding a cup of hot chocolate, nutter, lol.  I'm just amused that the "not science" way in which you were going to answer this question, and demonstrate that you can too™ know what it feels like...was to do science.

Should I defer to your earlier objections and continue to assert that I know that you can't know what it feels like to hold a cup of hot chocolate, or defer to your process of checking empirical observations against those of others?

Or should I walk away?

Your thoughts on this issue are a mess, man.

[Belacqua]

Of what practical use is a fundamentally unanswerable question?

 I hope our Protestant/capitalist ideologies aren't so strong that practicality is the only way to be good. 

One benefit that might arise from recognizing an unanswerable question: humility. Knowing one's limits.

[Rahn127]

On the subject of "Knowing one's limits"

You can probably estimate within the nearest meter how far away a window is from you at this very moment.
You probably can't estimate within the nearest meter how far away the top window of the Empire State Building in NYC is from you.

Knowing the limits of your ability to estimate distances, weights, sizes of things that are very far away from you, you should be able to reasonably say
"I don't know. That object is too far away. It's too massive. I couldn't possibly even begin to estimate it's attributes with my own senses."

But now, let's say someone says they know without a doubt how large something is that they cannot measure. It's unmeasurable and yet they believe they KNOW how large it is. They know it's infinite. An attribute that can't be measured, but yet they believe that they know it.

What are we to make of someone who uses their imagination to go beyond their known limits of perception ?

Is this person delusional ?

[The Valkyrie]

On the subject of "Knowing one's limits"

You can probably estimate within the nearest meter how far away a window is from you at this very moment.
You probably can't estimate within the nearest meter how far away the top window of the Empire State Building in NYC is from you.

Knowing the limits of your ability to estimate distances, weights, sizes of things that are very far away from you, you should be able to reasonably say
"I don't know. That object is too far away. It's too massive. I couldn't possibly even begin to estimate it's attributes with my own senses."

But now, let's say someone says they know without a doubt how large something is that they cannot measure. It's unmeasurable and yet they believe they KNOW how large it is. They know it's infinite. An attribute that can't be measured, but yet they believe that they know it.

What are we to make of someone who uses their imagination to go beyond their known limits of perception ?

Is this person delusional ?

Approximately 1 metre an 14, 397,000 metres respectively, give or take.

[Belacqua]

Is this person delusional ?

It depends on how he goes about it. How much he believes himself. Whether he listens to criticism. Etc.

Perception is pretty limited. Physicists talk about stuff beyond that limit all the time. To come up with new theories requires imagination.

[bennyboy]

You're the one who wanted to talk about holding a cup of hot chocolate, nutter, lol.  I'm just amused that the "not science" way in which you were going to answer this question, and demonstrate that you can too™ know what it feels like...was to do science.

Should I defer to your earlier objections and continue to assert that I know that you can't know what it feels like to hold a cup of hot chocolate, or defer to your process of checking empirical observations against those of others?

Or should I walk away?

Your thoughts on this issue are a mess, man.

Your straw men are not only not very good points, but they're now too repetitive to be interesting.  Unstick that "repeat" button and say something fresh, or I'll consider your contribution to this line of thinking exhausted, and start skipping your posts.

[The Grand Nudger]

If you say so, Benny.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

[outtathereligioncloset]

Does a reasonable person disbelieve in gravity?

Pointless questions also don't justify disbelief.

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Do you believe in the divinity of Krishna?

I believe in a creator of existence. All gods other than the creator, manmade or not, I do not want to follow.

All gods were created by Man.  Without Man, no god would exist.

[Catharsis]

Pointless questions also don't justify disbelief.

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I believe in a creator of existence. All gods other than the creator, manmade or not, I do not want to follow.

All gods were created by Man.  Without Man, no god would exist.

It's implausible man created the god that created man.