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Embellishments in the Gospel of Mark.
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RE: Embellishments in the Gospel of Mark.
(March 28, 2019 at 9:13 am)Jehanne Wrote: It is, like Q, one of the earliest historical sources on the historical Jesus, with, of course, Matthew & Luke copying from Mark, adding their own source material (along with that of Q), and with the Gospel of John being a largely unhistorical narrative of Jesus (such as the Thursday crucifixion); but, if Mark himself embellished his source material, how can historians hope to reconstruct the historical Jesus?

citation please
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#42
RE: Embellishments in the Gospel of Mark.
(April 1, 2019 at 8:23 pm)popeyespappy Wrote: Two source hypothesis
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#44
RE: Embellishments in the Gospel of Mark.
(April 2, 2019 at 12:50 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote:
(April 1, 2019 at 8:23 pm)popeyespappy Wrote: Two source hypothesis

and what of the 
The Farrer-Goulder Hypothesis
[i]The Griesbach-Farmer Hypothesis[/i]
[i]or the more likly[/i]
[i][i]The Augustinian-Butler Hypothesis?[/i][/i]
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#45
RE: Embellishments in the Gospel of Mark.
What about them?  You asked for sources, you got what you asked for.
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#47
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Gee, a christian doesn't actually like the consensus of scholars after all.  How unexpected.
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#48
RE: Embellishments in the Gospel of Mark.
(April 3, 2019 at 12:44 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: What about them?  You asked for sources, you got what you asked for.

those other theories stack evidence against your posted theory. two of which are far more plausible. it seems you just cherry picked the most atheistic frendly theory and posted it with out any through to the biblical content you are pretending to discuss.

(April 3, 2019 at 12:44 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Gee, a christian doesn't actually like the consensus of scholars after all.  How unexpected.

retard, there are 4 different theories these same scholars compiled/recognise. not just the one you posted that is why I gave you the other three. there are 4 possible innerations on how the gospels where compiled one not having favor on the other three. the compilation based on popular vote puts markian authorship first, most agree content says otherwise.
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#49
RE: Embellishments in the Gospel of Mark.
I don't have to repeat the line "the consensus of scholars" in these convos, so it's not all that worrisome to me.  If you don't actually agree with the consensus of scholars, then I suppose we can just remind you of that everytime you repeat the mantra, right?

I don't know what to tell you, as far as the historicity of christ is concerned, all of the potential historical jesus are "atheistic".

None of them posit, real godman, really true..because then the "history" game would be up, huh? Similarly, none of them certify the sectarian claims to timelines and composition..because, here again the "history" game would be up. Regardless of whichever historical jesus was the real jesus, if any, the composition of the thing you think is a magic book just doesn't have the past that your faith demands it must.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Embellishments in the Gospel of Mark.
Two Source

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Farrer

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Three Source

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Q+

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Wilke

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Four Source

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Griesbach

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Augustinian

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Jerusalem school

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Proto Gospel

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Independent

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