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RE: I thought your god was keeping you safe
April 22, 2019 at 11:29 pm
(April 22, 2019 at 11:25 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: (April 22, 2019 at 10:54 pm)Kit Wrote: What really gets me is that if racists really want to be smart, they can simply claim to be using the Spanish word for the color black. Which I have seen on bags of olives in retail.
Wow. I’m super drunk, and I want to say something horrible. But, I won’t, because it would get me demoted.
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RE: I thought your god was keeping you safe
April 23, 2019 at 12:09 am
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(April 22, 2019 at 11:25 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: (April 22, 2019 at 10:54 pm)Kit Wrote: What really gets me is that if racists really want to be smart, they can simply claim to be using the Spanish word for the color black. Which I have seen on bags of olives in retail.
Wow. I’m super drunk, and I want to say something horrible. But, I won’t, because it would get me demoted.
Oh c'mon, Camoo. Just do it and say you were drunk afterwards like everybody else does.
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RE: I thought your god was keeping you safe
April 23, 2019 at 12:15 am
(April 23, 2019 at 12:09 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: (April 22, 2019 at 11:25 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Wow. I’m super drunk, and I want to say something horrible. But, I won’t, because it would get me demoted.
Oh c'mon, Camoo. Just do it and say you were drunk afterwards like everybody else does.
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RE: I thought your god was keeping you safe
April 23, 2019 at 10:25 am
K, can we stop derailing this thread now? 🤪
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RE: I thought your god was keeping you safe
April 23, 2019 at 1:17 pm
(April 13, 2019 at 11:39 pm)rado84 Wrote: Every now and then I keep hearing or reading news of "crimes" against the local churches. Yesterday I read about a bunch of kids who stole the donations box of a church in my country. Naturally the media called that "a major crime" but considering what criminals run and serve the church, I don't think stealing from a thief is a theft. Anyway, the article said there were 4 security cameras in that church and also (like many other churches around here) it had something in my language is called a "security roulette". IDK what it is called in English.
This brings me to the $1 million question - if your god keeps you safe, why:
• do you need cameras or that security thing from the above image?
• do you lock your car in the street or park it in a garage that has a lock?
• do you lock the door of your home?
That shows a serious lack of faith in your god. Therefore, all the so called "christians" are actually atheists.
• do you need cameras or that security thing from the above image? Humans require evidence before prosecution, God just smites people.
• do you lock your car in the street or park it in a garage that has a lock? Yes for both
• do you lock the door of your home? Yes
Criminals do serve and run some churches... and some daycares, political organizations, governments, social groups, law firms, etc. Stealing is stealing, even if it's for a good reason/ just cause. As to the pont in lack of faith. I do have a lack of faith in God sometimes, usually because I believe I know how to better do something. Not because God hasn't shown time and again that He is powerful enough to turn it to good, but because the levels of atrocities and evils people propagate on each other is nearly unfathomable and truely scary.
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RE: I thought your god was keeping you safe
April 23, 2019 at 3:58 pm
Quote:do you need cameras or that security thing from the above image? Humans require evidence before prosecution, God just smites people.
Which doesn't answer his point
Quote:Criminals do serve and run some churches... and some daycares, political organizations, governments, social groups, law firms, etc.
But none of them are declaring themselves pinnacles or morality
Quote:Stealing is stealing, even if it's for a good reason/ just cause.
Which begs the question
Quote:As to the pont in lack of faith. I do have a lack of faith in God sometimes, usually because I believe I know how to better do something.
That's a poor reason
Quote:Not because God hasn't shown time and again that He is powerful enough to turn it to good,
He has not
Quote:but because the levels of atrocities and evils people propagate on each other is nearly unfathomable and truely scary.
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RE: I thought your god was keeping you safe
April 23, 2019 at 4:22 pm
I'm just a former Christian, but when I was a believer I never got the sense that God's intent was to save humans from anything other than the wages our own sin.
Wasn't one much for intercessory prayer for that very reason.
That's still the general impression I get in considering Scripture as an atheist.
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RE: I thought your god was keeping you safe
April 23, 2019 at 4:43 pm
Yea, I feel like the OP is a bit ridiculous.
Never in my time as a Christian did I believe (or any other Christians I knew) that god would protect me from anything bad happening to me ever. Never did I believe it was his place to do that. I would say that at most Christians should be thanking god for giving them a life where they’re afforded the luxury of having locks on their doors. Their faith should never be that god will prevent them from being robbed, but rather that whether or not they use the locks, if they do get robbed, god will see them through it.
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RE: I thought your god was keeping you safe
April 23, 2019 at 5:30 pm
(April 23, 2019 at 4:43 pm)Losty Wrote: Yea, I feel like the OP is a bit ridiculous.
Never in my time as a Christian did I believe (or any other Christians I knew) that god would protect me from anything bad happening to me ever. Never did I believe it was his place to do that. I would say that at most Christians should be thanking god for giving them a life where they’re afforded the luxury of having locks on their doors. Their faith should never be that god will prevent them from being robbed, but rather that whether or not they use the locks, if they do get robbed, god will see them through it.
I had a sky pilot tell me he could prove God was protecting me. He outranked me so he went along one day. Brought him home in a body bag. The chaplains that came for his body asked us to pray for him.
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RE: I thought your god was keeping you safe
April 23, 2019 at 5:32 pm
(April 23, 2019 at 5:30 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: (April 23, 2019 at 4:43 pm)Losty Wrote: Yea, I feel like the OP is a bit ridiculous.
Never in my time as a Christian did I believe (or any other Christians I knew) that god would protect me from anything bad happening to me ever. Never did I believe it was his place to do that. I would say that at most Christians should be thanking god for giving them a life where they’re afforded the luxury of having locks on their doors. Their faith should never be that god will prevent them from being robbed, but rather that whether or not they use the locks, if they do get robbed, god will see them through it.
I had a sky pilot tell me he could prove God was protecting me. He outranked me so he went along one day. Brought him home in a body bag. The chaplains that came for his body asked us to pray for him.
That’s very sad. Even back when I was a Christian I would’ve said that guy made a terrible choice and it wasn’t very smart of him.
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