This may be farewell.

[Brian37]

'Tatooine', not 'Tattooween' (which reads like a holiday for body art).

How do you know the Ark never existed?  It wasn't unusual for nomads of that time and place to carry sacred objects around with them in ornate boxes.

Boru

I've been out nerded!

ALWAYS BET ON NERD! AND ABBA!

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

'Tatooine', not 'Tattooween' (which reads like a holiday for body art).

How do you know the Ark never existed?  It wasn't unusual for nomads of that time and place to carry sacred objects around with them in ornate boxes.

Boru

Holy crap dude. I cant spell, thanks for the update.

I could give a shit less if a box with gold angels on top  it existed. It still would not make magic real.

We can prove depictions of the Egyptian gods Ra, Osiris and Isis and Horus existed. But nobody sane believes in the "Egyptian book of the dead'.

Something certainly inspired the "Ark" story, just like something inspired claims of Apollo and Zues and Venus and Vishnu. And we have plenty of artifacts proving humans made those claims as well.

What I doubt is the super natural, and gods. If you want to claim somebody inspired the "Ark" story, well no shit, otherwise the story would not exist. But it is still a myth, and did not happen like the bible claims, much less the movie itself.

If a old box made in antiquity were proof of a god or the super natural then anything the Mayans built that we have found today are proof of their gods.

The Ark is a legend.

It doesn't matter if magic is real or not (and I agree, it isn't).

We've been through this before with the Crown of Thorns.  When you say, 'The ark never existed', you're making a statement regarding the historicity of a particular object.  You aren't making claims about magic or the supernatural.

Certainly, the Ark of the Covenant wasn't a magical box with the ability to melt Nazi faces (although how cool would THAT be??), but your blanket claim that it didn't exist isn't supportable - in fact, there's some middling good evidence that it did exist.

Boru

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I feel like Clyde Tombaugh.

[Foxaèr]

I feel like Clyde Tombaugh.

Who?

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

I feel like Clyde Tombaugh.

Who?

Discovered Pluto.  Not sure of the connection, though...

Boru

[Brian37]

Holy crap dude. I cant spell, thanks for the update.

I could give a shit less if a box with gold angels on top  it existed. It still would not make magic real.

We can prove depictions of the Egyptian gods Ra, Osiris and Isis and Horus existed. But nobody sane believes in the "Egyptian book of the dead'.

Something certainly inspired the "Ark" story, just like something inspired claims of Apollo and Zues and Venus and Vishnu. And we have plenty of artifacts proving humans made those claims as well.

What I doubt is the super natural, and gods. If you want to claim somebody inspired the "Ark" story, well no shit, otherwise the story would not exist. But it is still a myth, and did not happen like the bible claims, much less the movie itself.

If a old box made in antiquity were proof of a god or the super natural then anything the Mayans built that we have found today are proof of their gods.

The Ark is a legend.

It doesn't matter if magic is real or not (and I agree, it isn't).

We've been through this before with the Crown of Thorns.  When you say, 'The ark never existed', you're making a statement regarding the historicity of a particular object.  You aren't making claims about magic or the supernatural.

Certainly, the Ark of the Covenant wasn't a magical box with the ability to melt Nazi faces (although how cool would THAT be??), but your blanket claim that it didn't exist isn't supportable - in fact, there's some middling good evidence that it did exist.

Boru

No, sorry, The Crown of Thorns is not like documenting Mount Vernon or George Washington.

The crown of thorns STORY is older than the relic claimed. And that is the point. The story came first, the relic came centuries after. Easy to manufacture a prop after the legend is told. 

We don't have to rely on second hand stories about George Washington. And nobody sane today buy's the Cherry Tree mythology. 

The "crown of thorns" motif is a result of the age of kings. It wasn't because an actual guy named Jesus existed. It was because religions were competing in an age of kings, and the early Christians marketed both their stories and relics to sell a new religion, IN AN AGE OF KINGS.

Religious relics are made and sold like stage props in a magic show. It does not matter if the prop itself is real, nobody literally saws the woman in half.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Clyde used a blink-comparator to spot a moving object wayyyy out there.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

No, sorry, The Crown of Thorns is not like documenting Mount Vernon or George Washington.

No one said it was.

 

The crown of thorns STORY is older than the relic claimed. And that is the point. The story came first, the relic came centuries after. Easy to manufacture a prop after the legend is told. 

We've been through this before - you don't know, you can't possibly know, when the Crown was made.

We don't have to rely on second hand stories about George Washington. And nobody sane today buy's the Cherry Tree mythology. 

Utterly irrelevant.

The "crown of thorns" motif is a result of the age of kings. It wasn't because an actual guy named Jesus existed. It was because religions were competing in an age of kings, and the early Christians marketed both their stories and relics to sell a new religion, IN AN AGE OF KINGS.

Define 'Age of kings', please.  There have been kings throughout human history, including the present. And if Christians were trying to sell their 'new' religion, wouldn't they have done the relic making in the first century?

Religious relics are made and sold like stage props in a magic show. It does not matter if the prop itself is real, nobody literally saws the woman in half.

But SOME relics are undeniably genuine. 

What's all this got to do with the Ark?

Boru

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Clyde used a blink-comparator to spot a moving object wayyyy out there.

Holy jumping fucking shitballs.  THAT'S impressive.

Boru

[Gawdzilla Sama]

And it's not finished yet. The remaining ~200 mbps will be available within two weeks. They have to run a line to max out. The above is using existing equipment to some extent.