The Adam & Eve Myth - Origins

[Nay_Sayer]

Sure, But your laughing emoji makes me think you have no intention on listening.  This is the root of your problem.

What a sad little man you are.

Eternal blessings.

RAmen.

What was funny is you where only alluding to this book earlier when I asked for reference you pointed to the book as a whole. and a 2nd time but now the third time you say you can finally point to book chapter and verse which is what I asked for from the beginning, but according to you I'm the one with bad or worsening reading comprehension skills.

So please in good faith (which you claim you abundantly have) and as I personally have shown each and every single one of you despite how it may be received I ask you provide the correlating book chapter and verse to everything you where preaching to me about in the last few pages of dialog.

because otherwise you are using the FSM book as a manifesto just like some nut on a street corner with a bible condemning random people spreading your own truths which may have nothing to do with this 'boutique religion.'

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Before even considering that question, ask your self why you are here  ... Is it to socialise with atheists or to push your shitty book that thinks we atheists deserve to burn in hell?

I answer that in my hell thread. and in my opening post to this forum.

I am here to answer any bible based questions any of you may have with bible based answers concerning God the bible or aspects of this religion. and I am here to correct any misrepersentations of the bible and or scripture that i see and provide the truth to who seek it. Why? because as I point out in the hell thread after I was shown the truth of everything ad how life and the after life all worked together i realized my problem was with my own lack of simple understanding.

that early on I was corrupted by religion and misunderstood god. What made hell hell was not so much (hell fire) but the idea that I was there for the lack of a better word my own pride in how i thought the world and God worked. I realized my problem was not with God but my own limited understanding and what would eat me alive in hell was the idea of what if... what if i only knew better would I have approached God differently. While i knew i deserved hell the idea of thinking what if forever haunted me

This desire to understand God better is what kicked off 20+ years of study. which come to find out is not necessary. the path to God is far simplier to find and truthfully NOT a blind faith based exercise! You do what God says do and meet him how and where he says. He will show up one way or another. It the single promise this whole religion has been based on and has thrived on for over 2000 years. it is why it can not be shaken from those who know what they have seen and experienced.

 
I have to bold because you insist on doing multiple quotes in a messy wall.

I'm now answering you once again, I'll try sign language next.  You will. Not might, not maybe, but will disregard the holy teachings of my faith. I also take great umbrage with you claiming my faith is boutique. I don't go around calling your misguided beliefs as misguided, childish, bronze age shit swill, even if it is.

So I'll give you one easy FSM scripture despite the knowledge you'll protest.


From Mugnaia; "From York in York," they replied, "for this is what the prophet has written: 'But you, Edison, in the land of Jersey, are by no means least among the actors of Jersey; for out of you will come a female performer who will hold a golden idol'"

This foretells the 1995 Oscar Win by Susan Sarandon.
RAmen

[Jehanne]

Drich,

I'll start a new thread on the evolutionary changes in the Hebrew Bible; look for it in the history subforum.

Dawn

[Nay_Sayer]

Drich,

I'll start a new thread on the evolutionary changes in the Hebrew Bible; look for it in the history subforum.

Dawn

I was granted a vision of Drich's responses in your soon to be thread;

[Jehanne]

Whatever they are doing seems somewhat pointless, but I am sure that there is some purpose to it!

[Drich]

 
I have to bold because you insist on doing multiple quotes in a messy wall.

I'm now answering you once again, I'll try sign language next.  You will. Not might, not maybe, but will disregard the holy teachings of my faith.

I do not disregurd anything. I do however extrapolate question and identify, Faith, fact, contextual meaning as well as blatant parody and personal manfestos claiming to be from a given source. for example the next quote of your where you take 'great umbrage' is a place where I get to kick you teeth in for not know the words of your own prophet, which again shows your faith in the FSM religion is based less on the written word and more on your own personal manfesto which seems to be centered around making fun of religion as how you see it works.. which seems to be miles from what the FSM religion is doing.

Otherwise you would have recognised he 'holy words of your prophet bobby henderson when he said:

If this was a manifesto, a pamphlet, a flyer, an
1. Also known as the language of the forked tongue.
xiv* *A Letter from Bobby Henderson
article, or some nut preaching from a street corner, you, fair reader,
might perceive FSMism2
to be just another two-bit cult. But we're not a
cult (we're more like a boutique religion at this point), and this is a
book that will stand up to any of the others—at least in terms of strict
plausibility if not literary finesse and retributive beheadings and disembowelment. The more you read about us the more you're going to be
persuaded that the Flying Spaghetti Monster is the true Creator and
that FSMism just might be the Best. Religion. Ever.

FSM book page 7 and 8
Do you see it now moron?

The reason for this book is to set apart the FSM religion from any personal nut job's manifesto because the FSM religion is not some bull shit guy's attempt of religious parody but a real religion a "botique religion" (your prophet's words and not mine) Meaning this is not some douche just making up stuff as he goes (which without any denotations to book chapter and verse is what you are doing) but this religion is founded with a book of rules like every other major world religion.. (which according to your prophet is the only way this religion gains legitimacy) So to quote or claim to quote the religion without doing so makes what you are doing a personal parody of this religion or you are trying to usurp the written word for your own manfesto.

Get it yet ass hole??? What you are doing by pretending to quote the FSM religion with out direct correlation to book chapter and verse is EXACTLY WHY this book was penned out and published, to separate the fake FSM supporters from the real deal! YOU are the manifesto guy sport, the guy on the street corner telling everyone they are going to FSM hell, by your own recognizing and not according to FSM cannon. Or you are the guy pretending to be religious as a joke. Either Way your prophet says your actions are the primary reason he wrote this book and is what he is trying to stop, because people like you/who are doing what you do (preach without religious authority that comes from a canonical source/book) make the FSM religion a cult.

So when I ask for book chapter and verse I am asking for you to proove you are not only apart of this religion and not some fake fraud just pretending to be religious or someone who has his own manifesto/looking to make the fsm follow look stupid and uneducated, or maybe some evil person trying to start an off shoot cult.. All of which your very own prophet says can be used to filter out by using this book.

I also take great umbrage with you claiming my faith is boutique. I don't go around calling your misguided beliefs as misguided, childish, bronze age shit swill, even if it is.

douche bag does not even know why his book was written.
I having read the first 1/4 of this book know more about this 'religion' than you do.

So I'll give you one easy FSM scripture despite the knowledge you'll protest.


From Mugnaia; "From York in York," they replied, "for this is what the prophet has written: 'But you, Edison, in the land of Jersey, are by no means least among the actors of Jersey; for out of you will come a female performer who will hold a golden idol'"

This foretells the 1995 Oscar Win by Susan Sarandon.
RAmen

that good and all but you said:

We have been through this then you know FSM made evolved man or planted the divine noodle for evolved man day 4 and let him develop with the rest of the world
Got it?

Then gave a quote that does not seem to come from the fsm book. I want to know book chapter and verse.. If this is not a cannon, then you are not of this religion... this is personal cult stuff something your prophet warns us about.

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Drich,

I'll start a new thread on the evolutionary changes in the Hebrew Bible; look for it in the history subforum.

Dawn

sorry did not see it send a link

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Whatever they are doing seems somewhat pointless, but I am sure that there is some purpose to it!

logical fallacy: Moving the goal posts.

Meaning douche bag thinks i will try and change the topic, rather than directly answer your questions topically and biblically.

Which I have absolutely no problem doing.

Remember the video I wanted made? It is on this very subject so when this topic comes us you can see clearly what I am trying to communicate when I assimilate all of evolutionary theory into the 7 days of creation. (without changing a single word of the bible or evolution)

[Nay_Sayer]

See Drich? but as always, FSM foretold this and was once again correct. I'm sorry you follow a false Idol.

It is very clear all you can do is fidget and delve again and again into Ad hominin attacks. This is the mark of anger. Anger welling up because you know you're wrong, your faith to be a lie and now as you see the veracity, and eternal holy truths I present, All you can do is verbally soil yourself.

As always I pray for you.

Endless blessings. RAmen.

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Before I finish lunch I'm putting up a straw poll

https://www.strawpoll.me/18165863/r

Who has the correct and true faith?


Is it I who bring the endless love, acceptance and harmony of Pastafarianism or Drich who reaches deep within his rectum to sling hatred, anger and disorder with his twisted version of christianity?

[Jehanne]

Drich,

Absolutely no one in Western scholarship, save a handful of religious fundamentalists, thinks as you do, and even within that tiny minority, many of your ideas would be viewed as being absurd.

Dawn

[Drich]

Drich,

Absolutely no one in Western scholarship, save a handful of religious fundamentalists, thinks as you do, and even within that tiny minority, many of your ideas would be viewed as being absurd.

Dawn

How is this an insult?

"Our ways are not his ways our thoughts are not his thoughts..." Meaning if the majority of our thoughts are "x" concerning God and this religion, they are wrong.
Example most churches think they are the only one true christian religion. Some even say you will go to hell if you pick the wrong church. and they cut up the bible and take a verse peice from here and there and paste these fragments together to construct a new point.

What do i teach how am I different? I used a whole contextual chapter to counter this teaching, and compare each church as a different part of the body just like the bible teaches I NEVER cut the bible up into one or two verse blubers and paste them together to make a point.  I always used whole paragraphs if not chapter or even whole books to make the points I teach. In that you are right, because no religion does that! why? because 95% believe if read straight though there are contextual problems. So people read around the bits that seem to contradict and pair like verses together which is why you get a preacher shouting out 5 different verses from 5 different books to make one point.

Rather than try and reconcile them. which btw is beyond human understanding to do so. Why? because most people read the bible wrong. they putt too much into book chapter and verse to complete ideas for them. when ifact some ideas stop before the end of the verse while others go into other chapters.

Genesis 1 and 2 are this way. genesis 1 bleeds 4 verses into genesis 2. Meaning the first 4 verses of chapter 2 should be the last 4 of chapter 1 meaning if you read gen 1:1 the story of the seven day creation/population of the planet ends in genesis 2 verse 4. you don't have to be a scholar to see that. gen 1 takes about 6 of the 7 days in full detail from the start of the day to the end of the day. All except day 7 which ends on chapter 2:4

This means chapter 2:5 should be the beginning of the new chapter.. but it is not. why? because it tell a different creation. many confuse this with an alternate version of what chapter one tells us but if you just read it gives us a reference or time line which chapter 2 takes place. Meaning chapter 2 tell of the creation of the garden only which happened middle of day three to mid day 4 Jesus (is the one doing the creating here in chapter 2) create the garden and everything in it apart from what father God in chapter 1 does.

So right there in the bible you have two thing going on at the same time the creation of the garden, and man with a soul all complete by the middle of  day 4. while God creates man per chapter 1 outside of the garden day 6..

So complete man with a soul get created by Jesus apart from the chapter 1 narrative and is placed in the garden

Then man outside of the garden was created day 6.. now we know man outside of the garden according to science and the fossil record had to evolve. no disputing that with you people correct? no. so the next question should be is does the bible say anything that would prevent God's day 6 version of man evolve over time? no.

The only thing the bible mandates is adam and eve are exiled from the garden 6000 years ago.

So next question would be is there anything in the bible that says adam and eve could not remain in the garden for the trillions of years man needed to evolve? There is no time line set between verse 2 and verse 3. tradition simply mandates the fall happens within days of the garden being built.. but there is nothing in the bible that supports this traditional understanding. it is just what is blindly believed.

So is there anything in the bible anywhere that could limit adam's time in the garden? in chapter 6 I believe it is said adam lived 190 years ON THIS EARTH.

How can this be reconciled? because the time adam spent in the garden he was a different creature he was immortal. we know this because he had access to the tree of life which gave him immortality. Plus God promised if you eat of the tree of knowledge you will surly die. Adam and eve both died as a result their immortal beings died and the clock of their eternal time with God stopped. Then their new post garden life started 6000 years ago with evolved man with no soul. As per chapter 2 man created in the garden was given a soul while man out side did not have a soul.

This simple contextual reading SOLVES ALL of the atheist most popular contradictions. S
where did the city come from that cain fled too?
Who did adam's children marry and where given unto marriage? 
the answer is evolved man.

again without changing a single word of genesis or change a word of evolution we can assimilate the whole of science into the 7 day creation.

is the road to destruction, narrow is the path to understanding and salvation.


I guess when you grow up in a single race everyone demands you must think and act like other members of your group. and when one of you is out of line, they are frown upon and looked down upon.

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See Drich? but as always, FSM foretold this and was once again correct.  I'm sorry you follow a false Idol.  

It is very clear all you can do is fidget and delve again and again into Ad hominin attacks. This is the mark of anger. Anger welling up because you know you're wrong, your faith to be a lie and now as you see the veracity, and eternal holy truths I present, All you can do is verbally soil yourself.

As always I pray for you.

Endless blessings.  RAmen.

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Before I finish lunch I'm putting up a straw poll

https://www.strawpoll.me/18165863/r

Who has the correct and true faith?


Is it I who bring the endless love, acceptance and harmony of Pastafarianism or Drich who reaches deep within his rectum to sling hatred, anger and disorder with his twisted version of christianity?

what do you mean false idol? i quoted your profit and I asked you to provide book chapter and verse to your supposed creation event. because the fsm book you linked me two does not support your reading of it

[Nay_Sayer]

Sperate my quote so I can reply. Thanks <3

Bless.

RAmen

[Jehanne]

Drich,

I don't believe in any of it. You can, of course, but your religion is in decline in terms of its numbers, hence, influence.

Dawn