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RE: So I am Here with My first Question
June 28, 2019 at 8:01 pm
(June 23, 2019 at 12:22 pm)hindu Wrote: My point is.. if imposition of thought doesn't happen peace is bound to come and conflicts happen when there is no acceptance.
majority of people here are accepting in nature as per comments i read.
Live and let live should be everyone's policy.
Peace is possible when people don't resort to violence with each other. Respecting each others beliefs or not seems like a completely separate issue.
We all gravitate toward our own social groups so we don't have to hear the promotion of ideas we don't agree with. That's one way to keep from arguing all the time, if that's what you mean by peace.
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RE: So I am Here with My first Question
June 29, 2019 at 11:59 am
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Atheism has no doctrine, dogma, holy books, or even leaders.
Atheism is simply NOT being convinced gods exist. Full stop.
Atheism is NOT a claim, it is a response to a claim.
Every thing else individual atheists do, or don't do, is outside the purview of atheism.
So it is up to every atheist to accept religions or not.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: So I am Here with My first Question
June 30, 2019 at 9:18 am
(June 12, 2019 at 6:13 am)hindu Wrote: Does Atheism has capability to accept other faiths ? I mean key to peace is acceptance ..
I am not talking about faiths like islam etc..Here I am talking about faiths like Buddhism, Jainism etc.
Note: I am not here to debate , I am here to discuss and learn from you guys.
Thanks
Acceptance of an idea like religious faith is less important than acceptance of people. Ideas deserve derision if progress is ever to truly be made in society, but acceptance of a person is the very meaning of humanity.
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RE: So I am Here with My first Question
July 17, 2019 at 7:49 am
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(June 12, 2019 at 6:13 am)hindu Wrote: Does Atheism has capability to accept other faiths ? I mean key to peace is acceptance ..
I am not talking about faiths like islam etc..Here I am talking about faiths like Buddhism, Jainism etc.
Note: I am not here to debate , I am here to discuss and learn from you guys.
Thanks
depends on the atheist or group of atheist.
list the accepted personality traits in psychology and you will see those types of people in all "faiths". so yes, atheism will have some very nice folks and some real jerks too.
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RE: So I am Here with My first Question
July 17, 2019 at 12:43 pm
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(June 12, 2019 at 6:13 am)hindu Wrote: Does Atheism has capability to accept other faiths ? I mean key to peace is acceptance ..
I am not talking about faiths like islam etc..Here I am talking about faiths like Buddhism, Jainism etc.
Note: I am not here to debate , I am here to discuss and learn from you guys.
Thanks
It's a personal thing. Atheism is just not believing in gods. Atheists can literally believe all they want from there. We have some resident nutjobs who don't believe in god.
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RE: So I am Here with My first Question
July 22, 2019 at 11:13 am
Your question implies atheism is a faith, as you're asking if atheism can accept "other" faiths.
That is like asking a person who is unmarried if he accepts other forms of marriage. It's a non-sequitur.
Atheists understand that other people adhere to religious beliefs. They vary in their respect for that decision, but in my experience and observation, all of us would be indifferent to what others believe, but for the fact that many religious people try to impose their religion on us. And understandably, we get a bit irritable around that.
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RE: So I am Here with My first Question
July 22, 2019 at 2:03 pm
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I think some atheist do treat atheism like a faith. deny anything and everything based on how a theist may use it is a blind faith.
most atheist don't do that but there is a large portion that follow that belief so literally it can almost be considered dogma when looking at them.
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RE: So I am Here with My first Question
July 22, 2019 at 3:25 pm
I mean, there are some pretty hyper atheists, but they don't represent atheism. They're just over-excited.
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RE: So I am Here with My first Question
July 22, 2019 at 6:47 pm
(July 22, 2019 at 3:25 pm)Shell B Wrote: I mean, there are some pretty hyper atheists, but they don't represent atheism. They're just over-excited.
Right enough. There's more than a few of my fellow atheists who should definitely switch to decaf.
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RE: So I am Here with My first Question
July 23, 2019 at 1:19 pm
(July 22, 2019 at 2:03 pm)comet Wrote: I think some atheist do treat atheism like a faith. deny anything and everything based on how a theist may use it is a blind faith.
most atheist don't do that but there is a large portion that follow that belief so literally it can almost be considered dogma when looking at them.
Most atheists are deconverts, and particularly if they're fresh deconverts, and young, they tend to present as a sort of anti-faith where the emphasis is on opposition to their faith of origin rather than on the lack of good reason to believe -- which they would have in common with a deconvert from any other religion or indeed with someone who never believed.
It is quite a blow to the ego to let go of something you're so heavily invested in for so long, and so easy to downplay or ignore your own role in being deceived. It's easier to portray yourself as a victim and the religion you left as the villain. The real world is rather more complicated.
None of this should be taken as minimizing the actual and very real harms of some forms of religion, particularly on vulnerable people. Nor is it intended to suggest there's no basis for actively opposing at least some forms of religion. My point is merely that I played a role too ... or I'd have left far sooner than I did. Also, my identity is no longer derived from being a former evangelical, it is derived from being a present rationalist. And my process wasn't so much deconverting from a particular religion as it was becoming committed to what's real rather than what's dogmatically asserted. If I had failed to embrace reality I would have likely just fallen into some different religion.
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