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Deconversion and some doubts
RE: Deconversion and some doubts
The only requirement for moral realism is that moral statements purport to report facts, and do...insomuch as they accurately report the contents of those facts, which refer to the object of the report rather than the subject making the report.

Put simply, moral realisms only requirement is the existence and communication of facts.

Can you explain why any sort of god would be required for human beings to accurately report facts about the object of their report?

If you can’t, can you explain your petulant initial outburst and subsequent batshit stalling for time?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Deconversion and some doubts
(August 2, 2019 at 11:19 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: The only requirement for moral realism is that moral statements purport to report facts, and do...insomuch as they accurately report the contents of those facts, which refer to the object of the report rather than the subject making the report.

Put simply, moral realisms only requirement is the existence and communication of facts.

Can you explain why any sort of god would be required for human beings to accurately report facts about the object of their report?  

If you can’t, can you explain your petulant initial outburst and subsequent batshit stalling for time?

No God of any type is required to report descriptive facts.

If all moral realism is doing, is providing descriptive facts, then no god of any type is needed for it.
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RE: Deconversion and some doubts
It looks like you can’t explain any portion of your comments in thread.

If there is any explanation, for any of it, you don’t possess it.

Perhaps you could explain your obvious certainty in light of the fact that you have no explanation for any portion of your position?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Deconversion and some doubts
(August 2, 2019 at 11:45 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: It looks like you can’t explain any portion of your comments in thread.

What are you asking me to explain, why no god of any type is required to report descriptive facts?
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RE: Deconversion and some doubts
I’m asking you to explain your position.

I think it’s amazing that you can’t. Usually, even people who get something wrong have some explanation for how that happened.

Not you, apparently. You have no explanation for any of it. Just a bunch of shit you did and said for no reason that you possess or can articulate.

That’s an impressive compulsion.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Deconversion and some doubts
(August 2, 2019 at 11:48 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: I’m asking you to explain your position.

I think it’s amazing that you can’t. Usually, even people who get something wrong have some explanation for how that happened.

Not you, apparently. You have no explanation for any of it. Just a bunch of shit you did and said for no reason that you possess or can articulate.

That’s an impressive compulsion.

Which position?
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RE: Deconversion and some doubts
You don’t even know your own position?

Can you explain that?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Deconversion and some doubts
(August 2, 2019 at 11:57 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: You don’t even know your own position?

Can you explain that?

I have thousands maybe even millions of positions, hence why I asked which one are you asking me to explain?
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RE: Deconversion and some doubts
Can you explain why you’d rather stall than offer up any explanation you do have, right or wrong?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Deconversion and some doubts
(August 2, 2019 at 12:11 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Can you explain why you’d rather stall than offer up any explanation you do have, right or wrong?

Explanation I do have for what?

I just sit here ask some questions about people’s beliefs, gather that information, and form a perspective on their views, as I did with your definition of moral realism, stripped of any normative elements, and concede that works without a god of.
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