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RE: Is God a logical contradiction?
February 16, 2020 at 6:45 pm
(February 16, 2020 at 11:26 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: Specifically with reference to your comments, an assertion of fact derived from reduction necessarily accepts the genetic validity of reduction. MA has tried to explain this to you in single units, that unit being special pleading - as he put it, making exceptions for one case and not another meaningfully identical case.
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RE: Is God a logical contradiction?
February 16, 2020 at 6:51 pm
(This post was last modified: February 16, 2020 at 6:54 pm by John 6IX Breezy.)
(February 16, 2020 at 11:44 am)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: I have no idea what you're talking about in your comment. I haven't said anything about reduction. David Chalmers among others do view consciousness as irreducible, but I haven't said anything relevant about them.
I don't mind going in circles until you say something substantive.
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RE: Is God a logical contradiction?
February 17, 2020 at 8:00 am
(This post was last modified: February 17, 2020 at 8:08 am by The Grand Nudger.)
What's the point of this, again? Your comments are still on the board to be quoted.
It could go another way. You could be interested and happy to have learned something about constructing a valid argument, and use that new info to field a better objection to non human consciousness.
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RE: Is God a logical contradiction?
February 17, 2020 at 9:32 am
(This post was last modified: February 17, 2020 at 9:33 am by John 6IX Breezy.)
Read through your own comments again lol. Surely you've noticed by now how pointless they are; even when asked you struggle to clearly state the problem. Its ok to not know how the mind and brain works, no one expects you to, so why go through so much trouble defending your false claims?
And I was happy to learn what stolen concepts were from Objectivist; why are you trying to take someone else's credit?
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RE: Is God a logical contradiction?
February 17, 2020 at 9:53 am
(This post was last modified: February 17, 2020 at 9:55 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Are you unclear on the issue of a stolen concept, again? The problem™ has been clearly stated by three posters. It's only a problem in the sense that it's an invalid form of objection. The objections, themselves, may still be true and..presumably, if so, could be stated some valid way.
Personally, I think that it's impossible to have a discussion about something like consciousness when a shared body of facts can't be agreed on.
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RE: Is God a logical contradiction?
February 17, 2020 at 10:21 am
(February 17, 2020 at 9:53 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: The problem™ has been clearly stated by three posters.
You're free to quote them or restate the problem yourself; but you still haven't done it lol.
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RE: Is God a logical contradiction?
February 17, 2020 at 10:40 am
-and I shouldn't have to - because the posts exist..the conversation occurred. Quoting those posts doesn't really change your behavior or response, as can be seen just a few posts ago. Still, just to make sure we're clear on something..I can restate the previously stated problem.
Stolen Concept; requiring the truth of the something that you are simultaneously trying to disprove.
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RE: Is God a logical contradiction?
February 17, 2020 at 11:04 am
(This post was last modified: February 17, 2020 at 11:05 am by John 6IX Breezy.)
The posts may exist; but I can't read your mind to know which they are, obviously. (Although I must admit, you thinking I can read your mind is consistent with thinking you can read the minds of animals).
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RE: Is God a logical contradiction?
February 17, 2020 at 11:13 am
God is only logical to those who forego with reason to accept his existence. Therefore, god is quite the contradiction to logic.
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RE: Is God a logical contradiction?
February 17, 2020 at 11:14 am
Are we clear on what a stolen concept is and why it's a problem, or not?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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