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[onlinebiker]

Bit of unsolicited advice, Brian: Swearing and typing in all caps isn't the best way to defend yourself against the charge of being a drama queen.

Boru

[Cecelia]

There's this notion that there's a large liberal media out there. There isn't. The mainstream media are all corporate media. They are far from liberal, and the notion that they are is quite absurd.

[Alan V]

There's this notion that there's a large liberal media out there.  There isn't.  The mainstream media are all corporate media.  They are far from liberal, and the notion that they are is quite absurd.

It's a given that what's called liberal in the U.S. is not considered so in the world at large, if that's what you mean.

If not, why can't liberals be pro-corporations?  Perhaps you are confusing liberals with progressives, who are only a subset of liberals.

[onlinebiker]

There's this notion that there's a large liberal media out there.  There isn't.  The mainstream media are all corporate media.  They are far from liberal, and the notion that they are is quite absurd.

It's a given that what's called liberal in the U.S. is not considered so in the world at large, if that's what you mean.
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If not, why can't liberals be pro-corporations?  Perhaps you are confusing liberals with progressives, who are only a subset of liberals.

A progressive is a liberal who found he was losing vote as a liberal - so the rebranding.....

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

It's a given that what's called liberal in the U.S. is not considered so in the world at large, if that's what you mean.
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If not, why can't liberals be pro-corporations?  Perhaps you are confusing liberals with progressives, who are only a subset of liberals.

A progressive is a liberal who found he was losing vote as a liberal - so the rebranding.....

Sort of like a conservative and a libertarian, then?

Boru

[onlinebiker]

A progressive is a liberal who found he was losing vote as a liberal - so the rebranding.....

Sort of like a conservative and a libertarian, then?

Boru

You have apparently never met a Libertarian.

I on the other hand -have.

No.- they are not rebranded conservatives.

[The Grand Nudger]

Koch industries says otherwise, and it’s their brand....so.

[Amarok]

Many people on the ( D ) side don't like to talk about this - but -  fact is -

President Trump was a registered ( D ) from 2001 to 2009. He has also claimed to be an independant - and a member of the Independence Party. (Isn't that an oxymoron?)

Inconcievable as it is that he got elected as an ( R ) - it is not unrealistic that he could have ran --  and -- possibly won as a ( D )....

It makes me giddy to imagine the discomfort.....

Enjoy the thought.

Actually it's not very realistic nor does it matter . You get giddy off stupid things . And you can be independent and be part of a party

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YoU sound just like one of those deluded xtian humpfucks who when confronted by one of their bretheren caught with their dick in the dog loudly proclaim " HE'S NOT A REAL XTIAN!!!"

Nah he sounds like someone who actually pointed out his undemocratic ideals and once again you go to your moronic religious analogy

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Uhh..
No.
You still missed it.
Liberal press.
By definition - any press with partisan leanings is going to be biased - so while they may not spread lies - they are unlikely to tell the whole truth either.
Lies are usually easier to spot than ommissions.

Nope a agency can be both partisan but also do unbiased fact checking  . Hell even Fox use to do this .

[Cecelia]

It's a given that what's called liberal in the U.S. is not considered so in the world at large, if that's what you mean.

If not, why can't liberals be pro-corporations?  Perhaps you are confusing liberals with progressives, who are only a subset of liberals.

Liberals can be pro-corporations.

But the Mainstream News Media organizations don't have a liberal bias.  They have a corporate bias.  They are driven in large part by sensationalism, not by any liberal ideology.  Sensationalism is what sells (even for FOX News, who actually ARE largely conservative biased).  But no mainstream media news organization is what you'd call 'Liberal'.  They often frame questions from a purely conservative framing, usually in order to suit their sponsors.  FOX News of course, takes it to the absurd, and pushes the conservative agenda -- mainly because that's their target audience.  It's why you'll hear Tucker Carlson say "White Nationalism isn't a problem" on Fox News.  Pure sensationalism with a strong conservative bias.  MSNBC and CNN will definitely have news that skews Liberal, but only to a point.  They're far more moderate than most people realize because conservatives keep moving further and further right, and they try to drag the middle right with them.

[Amarok]

A progressive is a liberal who found he was losing vote as a liberal - so the rebranding.....

Bullshit progressive have always existed in American politics and have always been independent to mainstream Liberalism .Hell there were even progressives in the Republican party at one time .

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You have apparently never met a Libertarian.

I on the other hand -have.

No.- they are not rebranded conservatives

1. Americans bastardize  the term Libertarian

2. Some Libertarians are not . Most Republican Libertarians are .