Guns and suicide

[Brian37]

I really hate these rinse and repeat Groundhog Day Whack A Mole dodge arguments by firearm worshipers.

"Other bad shit happens" does not mean we should not address firearm violence.

I am glad folks like OLB didn't raise me, I suffer from depression. This is just tons of fear marketing that they absorb to justify their vanity and or insecurities.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

The "don't try to fix anything until you can fix everything" school of thought is known properly as "piger cogitandi".

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

I really hate these rinse and repeat Groundhog Day  Whack A Mole dodge arguments by firearm worshipers.

"Other bad shit happens" does not mean we should not address firearm violence.

I am glad folks like OLB didn't raise me, I suffer from depression. This is just tons of fear marketing that they absorb to justify their vanity and or insecurities.

Don't let it worry you.  OLB is trying to demolish an argument that informed people don't take seriously.

Boru

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

The "don't try to fix anything until you can fix everything" school of thought is known properly as "piger cogitandi".

Exactly.  'We shouldn't attempt to address mass shootings at all because restricting firearms isn't the whole solution.'  A face palm argument if ever there was one.

Boru

[Gawdzilla Sama]

The "don't try to fix anything until you can fix everything" school of thought is known properly as "piger cogitandi".

Exactly.  'We shouldn't attempt to address mass shootings at all because restricting firearms isn't the whole solution.'  A face palm argument if ever there was one.

Boru

NRA rule 13: Anything that derails, silences, or otherwise avoids the topic is allowable.

[onlinebiker]

I see lots of self congratulation - which  seems odd - considering a total lack of an answer to the question ---

With such easy access to firearms, why isn't Israel's suicide rate much higher than Japan's?

Could it POSSIBLY be that there is no correlation between firearm ownership and suicide rates? (Unlike what the anti- gun crowd has been spewing for years).

[Anomalocaris]

You should be grateful that I condescended to respond when you post.   It’s just pure rude overreach to imply I should read and respond to your post.

Oh, but I am ever so grateful when you do.  Honestly, nothing perks me up like logging in here and find that you've taken some of your no doubt valuable time to respond to my posts.  I mean, all that condescension, word-twisting and just plain getting things wrong must be exhausting for you.

I humbly apologize for not having made clear earlier how much I value the effort you put into making a jumped-up jackass out of yourself and using my posts as a springboard to do so.

Boru

You just remember to continue to express you gratitude and appreciation by donating a large percentage of your pretax income to my recreational beverage, smokable and injectable substances fund and I shall try to remember to overlook your previous lapses.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I see lots of self congratulation - which  seems odd - considering a total lack of an answer to the question ---

Well, given that you see things through highly-focused self-interest I'm not surprised you don't see anything clearly.

[Brian37]

There is no such thing as "High capacity video games". There is no such thing as "high capacity mental illness."

There are just greedy firearm CEOs marketing fear in the same way Tobacco hid the health problems of their products.

[notimportant1234]

I see lots of self congratulation - which  seems odd - considering a total lack of an answer to the question ---

With such easy access to firearms, why isn't Israel's suicide rate much higher than Japan's?

Could it POSSIBLY be that there is no correlation between firearm ownership and suicide rates? (Unlike what the anti- gun crowd has been spewing for years).

It has been sayed for a lot of times already, it is not that guns make people want to commit suicide, it is about the easiness of commiting suicide using a gun. 

If you really want to have a discussions about this using statistics, you should use statistics about failure rate. And even then it is clear that using a gun to commit suicide has a higher rate of succes than let's say hanging.