Why Red Flag Laws Won't Work.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Yup.. Now there folks is the poster child for " hissy fit".

I'd like to be able to disagree with you, but, umm...

Boru

[Brian37]

Yup.. Now there folks is the poster child for " hissy fit".

Fine, asshole, I am throwing a "Hissy fit"


FINE......

You still have NOT ANSWERED my question.

If you owned a gun shop, and I walked in and wanted to buy a firearm you'd sell one to me?

Sorry, considering your responses here I find that very hard to believe.

You are full of fucking shit.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

If you owned a gun shop, and I walked in and said to you the same things and said "I am entitled to a firearm, just because of no record"

Ok.  You have no record. 

-Should the gun shop owner interview you to determine if you are fit to own a firearm?

-How does the shop owner make that determination?

-What qualifications would you require for someone to own a gun shop (for example, should someone who sells guns be required to also hold some sort of license as a diagnostician or therapist)?

(I'm not nagging you, Brian, I'm just trying to find out how much actual thought you've put into this)

Boru

[Brian37]

OLB, you can prove your point right here and now and defend your point "Brian37 has no record, and by proxy should be assumed to never do anything bad after a legal buy".....
You don't like me, you think I am crazy, so pick your side.

The term for what is conflicting your bad argument is called "Cognitive dissonance".

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

OLB, you can prove your point right here and now and defend your point "Brian37 has no record, and by proxy should be assumed to never do anything bad after a legal buy".....
You don't like me, you think I am crazy, so pick your side.

The term for what is conflicting your bad argument is called "Cognitive dissonance".

And yet you seem to want shop owners to be either psychics or psychiatrists.

Boru

[Brian37]

If you owned a gun shop, and I walked in and said to you the same things and said "I am entitled to a firearm, just because of no record"

Ok.  You have no record. 

-Should the gun shop owner interview you to determine if you are fit to own a firearm?

-How does the shop owner make that determination?

-What qualifications would you require for someone to own a gun shop (for example, should someone who sells guns be required to also hold some sort of license as a diagnostician or therapist)?

(I'm not nagging you, Brian, I'm just trying to find out how much actual thought you've put into this)

Boru

We vet police and military far better than civilians when we trust them with weapons.

[onlinebiker]

OLB, you can prove your point right here and now and defend your point "Brian37 has no record, and by proxy should be assumed to never do anything bad after a legal buy".....
You don't like me, you think I am crazy, so pick your side.

The term for what is conflicting your bad argument is called "Cognitive dissonance".

Star Trek - season 2 episode 4 " Mirror Mirror".

I think you'd be as easy to spot as Spock in a beard.

[Brian37]

OLB, you can prove your point right here and now and defend your point "Brian37 has no record, and by proxy should be assumed to never do anything bad after a legal buy".....
You don't like me, you think I am crazy, so pick your side.

The term for what is conflicting your bad argument is called "Cognitive dissonance".

And yet you seem to want shop owners to be either psychics or psychiatrists.

Boru

Holy shit...


One of the El Paso police after the that shooting was asked by a reporter what we (as a society) could do to spot trouble. His response WAS CORRECT  in that he RIGHTFULLY said "I am not a psychiatrist, that is not my expertise" ..... Ironically the asshole gun shop owner who sold the murderer the weapon said, upon the pickup of a web purchased weapon of war said, "He looked fine to me".

So if a cop admits they are not shrinks, what makes a gun shop owner a shrink either?

There is no way for ANYONE to tell when someone walks into a gun shop if that person will go their entire life doing no harm after the legal purchase. The TRUTH of reality is that most injuries and deaths, are not crimes of theft after a legal buy, but crimes after a legal buy.

I DONT want innocent people to be harmed. I do want society in general to stop assuming "no record" means nothing bad happens after a sale.

If a TRAINED COP is willing to admit they are NOT a psychiatrist then what makes a gun shop owner think "No record at time of buy, means no violence after a legal buy"?

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

And yet you seem to want shop owners to be either psychics or psychiatrists.

Boru

Holy shit...


One of the El Paso police after the that shooting was asked by a reporter what we (as a society) could do to spot trouble. His response WAS CORRECT  in that he RIGHTFULLY said "I am not a psychiatrist, that is not my expertise" ..... Ironically the asshole gun shop owner who sold the murderer the weapon said, upon the pickup of a web purchased weapon of war said, "He looked fine to me".

So if a cop admits they are not shrinks, what makes a gun shop owner a shrink either?

There is no way for ANYONE to tell when someone walks into a gun shop if that person will go their entire life doing no harm after the legal purchase. The TRUTH of reality is that most injuries and deaths, are not crimes of theft after a legal buy, but crimes after a legal buy.

I DONT want innocent people to be harmed. I do want society in general to stop assuming "no record" means nothing bad happens after a sale.

If a TRAINED COP is willing to admit they are NOT a psychiatrist then what makes a gun shop owner think "No record at time of buy, means no violence after a legal buy"?

Then on what other grounds should a gun shop owner refuse to sell?  The buyer has no record, he doesn't appear agitated or upset.  But you seem to want the seller to decline a sale based on the chance that something bad might happen after a legal buy.

I'm asking you (for the umpteenth time) what other criteria should a seller use to decline a sale?

Boru

[Brian37]

Holy shit...


One of the El Paso police after the that shooting was asked by a reporter what we (as a society) could do to spot trouble. His response WAS CORRECT  in that he RIGHTFULLY said "I am not a psychiatrist, that is not my expertise" ..... Ironically the asshole gun shop owner who sold the murderer the weapon said, upon the pickup of a web purchased weapon of war said, "He looked fine to me".

So if a cop admits they are not shrinks, what makes a gun shop owner a shrink either?

There is no way for ANYONE to tell when someone walks into a gun shop if that person will go their entire life doing no harm after the legal purchase. The TRUTH of reality is that most injuries and deaths, are not crimes of theft after a legal buy, but crimes after a legal buy.

I DONT want innocent people to be harmed. I do want society in general to stop assuming "no record" means nothing bad happens after a sale.

If a TRAINED COP is willing to admit they are NOT a psychiatrist then what makes a gun shop owner think "No record at time of buy, means no violence after a legal buy"?

Then on what other grounds should a gun shop owner refuse to sell?  The buyer has no record, he doesn't appear agitated or upset.  But you seem to want the seller to decline a sale based on the chance that something bad might happen after a legal buy.

I'm asking you (for the umpteenth time) what other criteria should a seller use to decline a sale?

Boru

HOLY FLYING SCOOBY DOO FLYING FUCK...


It isn't a matter of law...

I wish it were but it is NOT!

It is a matter of FUCKING COMMON SENSE...


If everyone is being honest, OLB  AND Boru or whomever.

Knowing my posts prior, no sane person who would own a gun shop, REGARDLESS if they followed the law, would say, "handing this guy  BRIAN37 was a good idea"....

I am not crazy, but merely pointing out if that one is going to freak out and imply the word, then why the fuck would you say "Oh well" when someone who freaks you out might  want to own a firearm?

Maybe  the better attitude for BOTH left and right is for the makers to give a shit how many they make and where they end up.