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Attention Theists! Present your best argument for the existence of God!
February 9, 2011 at 10:39 pm
Think you have a good argument for the existence of God? Fire away! I'm interested in seeing where the forum theists here are at and if there are any new arguments or forms there of that I've not encountered.
Plus, It would be interesting to see if anyone has a more original argument than Deist Paladin's argument from homosexuality 
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RE: Attention Theists! Present your best argument for the existence of God!
February 9, 2011 at 10:55 pm
(February 9, 2011 at 10:39 pm)theVOID Wrote: Plus, It would be interesting to see if anyone has a more original argument than Deist Paladin's argument from homosexuality
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RE: Attention Theists! Present your best argument for the existence of God!
February 9, 2011 at 11:50 pm
(February 9, 2011 at 10:55 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: (February 9, 2011 at 10:39 pm)theVOID Wrote: Plus, It would be interesting to see if anyone has a more original argument than Deist Paladin's argument from homosexuality
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Is that the Queer Duck theory of religion?
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RE: Attention Theists! Present your best argument for the existence of God!
February 9, 2011 at 11:50 pm
Go td made gays to adopt the excess children
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RE: Attention Theists! Present your best argument for the existence of God!
February 9, 2011 at 11:56 pm
(February 9, 2011 at 11:50 pm)theVOID Wrote: Got made gays to adopt the excess children
Got?
Even in German it has two t's.
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RE: Attention Theists! Present your best argument for the existence of God!
February 10, 2011 at 1:06 am
(February 9, 2011 at 11:50 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Is that the Queer Duck theory of religion?
Good name. I may adopt it if you and the owners of the character don't mind.
The "proof", such as it is, goes like this:
Homosexuality is part of nature. Same gender couples among animals are known to make homes together adopting young. This pattern also exists in human societies where allowed. Psychology studies have shown that gay couples are every bit as capable as parents. Androgyny tends to run higher among homosexuals (it's not just a stereotype) which may allow for them to play both motherly and fatherly roles.
Gay couples are beneficial to society, providing a natural set of god parents to children who are orphaned or abandoned. Homosexuality creates stable, loving homes that can't have children of their own and will be eager to adopt. Heterosexual couples can also adopt but they tend to want their own children.
So the existence of homosexuality is of benefit to society but the benefits are indirect with regards to natural selection. Natural selection runs on an organism's ability to adapt and survive in an environment and pass on their genes to the next generation. The benefits of homosexuality do nothing to ensure the individual homosexual will pass on their genes, which is what I mean by "indirect benefits with regard to natural selection".
Consequently, natural selection alone isn't a strong explanation for the benefits of homosexuality to a community. It's the best example of benevolent design I can think of.
As an added bonus, it causes fundie heads to explode. 
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RE: Attention Theists! Present your best argument for the existence of God!
February 10, 2011 at 2:58 am
God's existence can't be known. Bomb proof.
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RE: Attention Theists! Present your best argument for the existence of God!
February 10, 2011 at 7:22 am
(February 10, 2011 at 2:58 am)fr0d0 Wrote: God's existence can't be known. Bomb proof.
If gods existence cannot be known(i.e proven) then the only logical conclusion is that he doesn't exist.
Same as unicorns, trolls, Russells teapot and Jesus.
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RE: Attention Theists! Present your best argument for the existence of God!
February 10, 2011 at 7:33 am
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(February 10, 2011 at 1:06 am)DeistPaladin Wrote: The benefits of homosexuality do nothing to ensure the individual homosexual will pass on their genes, which is what I mean by "indirect benefits with regard to natural selection".
It is merely a misfiring by-product, like helping strangers is. Or like a moth killing itself on a flame - it's not suicidal, it's just a misfiring by-product of its navigation system.
Misfiring by-products can obviously be good, bad or indifferent.
(February 10, 2011 at 2:58 am)fr0d0 Wrote: God's existence can't be known. Bomb proof.
Sorry but that isn't an argument.
(February 10, 2011 at 7:22 am)Zen Badger Wrote: If gods existence cannot be known(i.e proven) then the only logical conclusion is that he doesn't exist.
Same as unicorns, trolls, Russells teapot and Jesus.
No, that is to commit the Argument from Ignorance fallacy. Just because there is no evidence for something or it seems absurd doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.
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RE: Attention Theists! Present your best argument for the existence of God!
February 10, 2011 at 7:52 am
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(February 10, 2011 at 1:06 am)DeistPaladin Wrote: Homosexuality is part of nature.
So is cancer. So are deformities. So is mental illness. Not really an arguement there.
Quote:Homosexuality creates stable, loving homes....
No it doesn't. Homosexuals may, but not homosexuality. And you say this as a blanket statement as if just being a homo makes you a positive benifiter to society. I'm in agreement with DvF, it's just a misfiring by-product and that in itself can be good, bad or indifferent.
Substitute 'people with cancer' for homos in your 'proof' and it works the same.
Quote: As an added bonus, it causes fundie heads to explode.
From facepalming maybe, not from any kind of sensible unrefutable arguement. I believe your arguement is just an attempt to internally rationalize and 'normalize' abnormal sexual behavior.
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