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RE: Is Trump fucked?
October 20, 2019 at 3:07 pm
(October 19, 2019 at 12:49 am)AFTT47 Wrote: (October 18, 2019 at 10:18 am)Divinity Wrote: Sadly, we here in America have what we call a "Republican Party". Which is a party so spineless, that Jellyfish have been upgraded to Verterbrates here. Consequently, jellyfish also have more brains and more heart than the Republican Party too.
That means Donald Trump could rape a 3-year-old on live television and then cut her head off, and conservatives would shout "TRIGGERING THE LIBZ!" "HOW DARE YOU TRY TO IMPEACH A DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED PRESIDENT! NOT LIKE WE TRIED TO DO THE SAME OVER A FUCKING BLOWJOB!"
Yeah, that's the situation.
My only hope is that the Repugnican party suffers serious damage when their spineless, amoralist Senators vote to to acquit a man OBVIOUSLY guilty of crimes threatening our democracy.
It is ironic that the Republicans of the 19th-century were at least willing to try Andrew Johnson on far less grievous "offenses" (namely, for having a political backbone) than the open-felonies of Donald Trump, even in an era where political corruption was the norm.
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RE: Is Trump fucked?
October 20, 2019 at 3:11 pm
(October 20, 2019 at 3:07 pm)Jehanne Wrote: (October 19, 2019 at 12:49 am)AFTT47 Wrote: Yeah, that's the situation.
My only hope is that the Repugnican party suffers serious damage when their spineless, amoralist Senators vote to to acquit a man OBVIOUSLY guilty of crimes threatening our democracy.
It is ironic that the Republicans of the 19th-century were at least willing to try Andrew Johnson on far less grievous "offenses" (namely, for having a political backbone) than the open-felonies of Donald Trump, even in an era where political corruption was the norm.
Of course Republicans were willing to try Johnson. He was a Democrat.
The more things, change, the more they stay the same.
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RE: Is Trump fucked?
October 20, 2019 at 3:13 pm
(October 20, 2019 at 3:11 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (October 20, 2019 at 3:07 pm)Jehanne Wrote: It is ironic that the Republicans of the 19th-century were at least willing to try Andrew Johnson on far less grievous "offenses" (namely, for having a political backbone) than the open-felonies of Donald Trump, even in an era where political corruption was the norm.
Of course Republicans were willing to try Johnson. He was a Democrat.
The more things, change, the more they stay the same.
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Of course, the Democrats, then and now, were the original Republicans, the party of Thomas Jefferson.
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RE: Is Trump fucked?
October 20, 2019 at 3:15 pm
(October 20, 2019 at 3:13 pm)Jehanne Wrote: (October 20, 2019 at 3:11 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Of course Republicans were willing to try Johnson. He was a Democrat.
The more things, change, the more they stay the same.
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Of course, the Democrats, then and now, were the original Republicans, the party of Thomas Jefferson.
Immaterial. It doesn't take a lot of gumption to impeach/try someone from the opposition party.
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RE: Is Trump fucked?
October 20, 2019 at 3:25 pm
(October 20, 2019 at 3:15 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (October 20, 2019 at 3:13 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Of course, the Democrats, then and now, were the original Republicans, the party of Thomas Jefferson.
Immaterial. It doesn't take a lot of gumption to impeach/try someone from the opposition party.
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It was not a 2-party system during the Civil War. The Democrats were not, necessarily, viewed as being the sole "opposition" party; it was the views of Johnson that earned the ire of the Republicans more than his party affiliation. With Trump, Republicans are willing to overlook his crimes because he is willing to support their views.
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RE: Is Trump fucked?
October 20, 2019 at 3:48 pm
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(October 20, 2019 at 3:25 pm)Jehanne Wrote: (October 20, 2019 at 3:15 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Immaterial. It doesn't take a lot of gumption to impeach/try someone from the opposition party.
Boru
It was not a 2-party system during the Civil War. The Democrats were not, necessarily, viewed as being the sole "opposition" party; it was the views of Johnson that earned the ire of the Republicans more than his party affiliation. With Trump, Republicans are willing to overlook his crimes because he is willing to support their views.
Yes, it was a two party system. Republicans and Democrats controlled 100% of the Senate and almost 98% of the House at the time Johnson was impeached.
But all that's largely beside the point (unless the point is how much I depend on Google). The point was made earlier that Republicans are weak because they still support Trump's obvious crimes. A comparison was made with the Republicans during Johnson's impeachment, who were willing to impeach and try Johnson. This is a false comparison. In both cases, you have people favouring impeachment being those people NOT of the President's party. Republicans who don't want Trump impeached are spineless and morally corrupt. Republicans who wanted Johnson impeached were doing politics as usual. Had Lincoln lived and done precisely what Johnson was impeached for (firing Stanton), it's highly unlikely Republicans would have supported impeachment.
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RE: Is Trump fucked?
October 27, 2019 at 7:38 am
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RE: Is Trump fucked?
October 27, 2019 at 7:38 am
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RE: Is Trump fucked?
October 28, 2019 at 7:57 pm
For now, Trump is safe. Unfortunately. The republicans in the senate support Trump too much to impeach him. The only way I could see him really being in trouble would be if his support from senate republicans dropped and I don't see that happening between now and the election in 2020. So, the only way I see him legitimately being impeached would be if the democrats won both houses of congress but Trump won re-election. I don't predict that will happen.
There's the possibility that Trump wins re-election but something happens after the election that's bad enough that he could get impeached. Maybe the democrats could take a majority in both houses in 2022. Even then, I would doubt it's going to be enough of a majority to push anything through. There are still too many states that are VERY red like Alabama, Oklahoma and Utah.
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RE: Is Trump fucked?
October 28, 2019 at 8:07 pm
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