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RE: Islam slave trade
October 28, 2019 at 4:55 am
(This post was last modified: October 28, 2019 at 4:55 am by Dmitry1983.)
(October 28, 2019 at 3:37 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: Let's quickly recall the disasters European brought upon humanity:
-atomic bombs Europeans simply had strongest economy that helped building nukes. Japanese also had nuclear program.
Quote:-enslaving Africans and turning black people to lesser humans until today
Slavery is sanctioned by the bible.
Quote:-literally killing the natives of both Americas
Afaik most natives died from deceases.
Quote:Crusaders were cannibal, savage horde.
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RE: Islam slave trade
October 28, 2019 at 5:20 am
(October 28, 2019 at 12:52 am)Athene Wrote: Oh, look...
GZ's all indignant and outraged at the mere thought of his despicably shitty line of thinking being applied to folks who happen to look like him.
What a great guy.
If you don't like the facts you can always take the river up to Aswan.
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RE: Islam slave trade
October 28, 2019 at 5:55 am
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RE: Islam slave trade
October 28, 2019 at 6:11 am
I don't think anyone here is trying to excuse or justify the slave trade (except possibly Dmitry, who is either a troll or an idiot or a bit of both), but instead are trying to point out that ANY individuals involved in the trafficking of human beings are not very nice people. That Europeans destroyed untold numbers of human lives through the slave trade is clearly beyond dispute, but this doesn't give those Africans and Levantines (or anyone else) who did the same thing a pass, simply because they did less of it, or did it slightly differently.
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RE: Islam slave trade
October 28, 2019 at 6:14 am
(October 28, 2019 at 6:11 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I don't think anyone here is trying to excuse or justify the slave trade (except possibly Dmitry, who is either a troll or an idiot or a bit of both), but instead are trying to point out that ANY individuals involved in the trafficking of human beings are not very nice people. That Europeans destroyed untold numbers of human lives through the slave trade is clearly beyond dispute, but this doesn't give those Africans and Levantines (or anyone else) who did the same thing a pass, simply because they did less of it, or did it slightly differently.
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Well spotted. It's rather like cannibalism, there's evidence for it in all cultures. Time Team showed examples in Cornwall, for instance.
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RE: Islam slave trade
October 28, 2019 at 7:55 am
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RE: Islam slave trade
October 28, 2019 at 10:07 am
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RE: Islam slave trade
October 28, 2019 at 11:39 am
Pointing out that you're a silly hypocrite, and insisting that your argument is wrong because you're a silly hypocrite aren't the same thing.
One is just an insult..and, fact check, true. The other would be a fallacy.
The nature of empire is brutality. It doesn't matter who's empire, or what god sanctioned it, lol. The ummah was a scourge on humanity in precisely the same way and for precisely the same reasons as the feudal apparatus leveraged toward conquest of the "holy" land. Two squabbling bunches of assholes fighting over pixie kissed dirt.
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RE: Islam slave trade
October 28, 2019 at 11:59 am
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The bottom line is when faced with historical facts about Islam and slavery, AtlasS33 is desperately trying to change the subject into what ever comes to his mind: atom bombs, ww1, crusades, 9/11, etcetera.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Islam slave trade
October 28, 2019 at 12:16 pm
(This post was last modified: October 28, 2019 at 12:17 pm by Deesse23.)
Well we got him cornered, and he is stuck like a broken record:
crusaders were cannibals!
Tu quoque!
rinse and repeat.
So, Atlas which part of
Quote:In other words:
#1 Yes lots of christian slavery
#2 Slavery is bad
#3 Were muslims involed just as knee deep in slavery?
#4 Fuck, yes! If not more!
#5 Does that make them any better or not (than christians)?
#6 No
#7 Does that make someone like you, trying to whitewash #3, ignore or blatantly lie about it a bigot and hypocrite?
#8 Fuk, yes
did you not understand? Need further explanation?
He has stopped to reply to the topic of slavery, which is the actual topic of the fucking thread. Why no retorts Atlas? Please tell us how muslims never enslaved anyone, or how its others peoples´fault if they did.
Quote:Well just for fun, lets remind him of some homework he needs to do.
Was there slavery under the Abbasids?
Did the Mamluks have slaves?
Did muslims enslave non muslims en masse in the barbary trade?
Did the Ottomans have slaves?
Did muslims enslave muslims and non muslims alike en masse during the arab slave trade around and across the indian ocean?
Didnt all muslim empires and all the reigning dynasties have slaves at all times in history?
Did muslims invade Spain and utterly destroy visigoth culture?
Did muslims destroy the Byzantine empire and its culture?
Did muslims destoy the Sassanid empire, its religion and culture?
What business had Abd ar-Rahman at Tours and Poitiers?
etc.
pp.
got anything factual to say, or want to keep up the deafening silence?
What a fucking hypocritcal, lying, bigoted, racist whining little bitch. What an colossal piece of shit he is. Allah will not be amused. Aaaaand the virgins will go to ..........
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