Most British voters support violence on brexit

[The Valkyrie]

The coined word "Brexit" pissed me off the very first time I heard it - so stay, leave or fuck a goat in the garage at midnight - I don't care.

Just get done with it and knock it off with the stupid amalgam words.

Fuck a goat at midnight?

What does this have to do with Tasmania?

[Anomalocaris]

Nonsense.   The Wales and Scotland parts of the empire is still in the process of being lost.

Rubbish. Wales and Scotland weren't part of the British Empire, never had been.  They were made integral parts of the Kingdom of England, which made the whole mess Great Britain. Thus, they were part of Britain, not the British Empire.

Boru

It is hardly a de jure question.   It will be a emotional question.  Wales and Scotland will be remembered as the last of the late great British empire when in what was Britain, there now exist a hard border between England, Scotland and Wales.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Rubbish. Wales and Scotland weren't part of the British Empire, never had been.  They were made integral parts of the Kingdom of England, which made the whole mess Great Britain. Thus, they were part of Britain, not the British Empire.

Boru

It is hardly a de jure question.   It will be a emotional question.  Wales and Scotland will be remembered as the last of the late great British empire when in what was Britain, there now exist a hard border between England, Scotland and Wales.

It's precisely a de jure question, as the British Empire was a de jure empire, not merely a de facto one (as is the US).  No one with any actual knowledge of the issue looks on Wales and Scotland as the last of the British Empire.  If those two places ever devolve, it will be looked upon as the end the UK, not the BE.

Boru

[The Grand Nudger]

I can understand why violence is rising as an option. When your votes don't appear to matter, and a government refuses to use it's status as a republic for the express purpose -of- a representative republic...to shit on your racist uncles bad ideas no matter how many racist uncles you have voting for their bad ideas....then process is clearly a non solution.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

I can understand why violence is rising as an option.  When your votes don't appear to matter, and a government refuses to use it's status as a republic for the express purpose -of- a representative republic...to shit on your racist uncles bad ideas no matter how many racist uncles you have voting for their bad ideas....then process is clearly a non solution.

Yeah, it sounds like an option til you're faced with running gun battles in the streets, car bombs, petrol bombs, children shot, and all the rest of it.

Civic violence may get you the result you want (though that's pretty rare), but it's hardly ever worth it.

Boru

[Anomalocaris]

I can understand why violence is rising as an option.  When your votes don't appear to matter, and a government refuses to use it's status as a republic for the express purpose -of- a representative republic...to shit on your racist uncles bad ideas no matter how many racist uncles you have voting for their bad ideas....then process is clearly a non solution.

Yeah, it sounds like an option til you're faced with running gun battles in the streets, car bombs, petrol bombs, children shot, and all the rest of it.

Civic violence may get you the result you want (though that's pretty rare), but it's hardly ever worth it.

Boru

The trick is to ensure in the race towards civil violence, the side that lost isn't the side that becomes powerless.

If that is not true, then civil violence is likely inevitable.

[Rev. Rye]

The extent of the British empire today:



Dozens of islands with a total population of about a quarter million. And only Gibraltar will actually be directly affected by Brexit. Though apparently, if nothing else, Gibraltar appears to be settled at this point.

And on the off-chance anyone's wondering why Brexit's kept getting put off, look no further than this:



Yeah, it turns out that leaving the EU actually makes keeping track of all the laws and treaties between the member-states a Hell of a lot harder. And they're still going to be beholden to the EU's rules and regulations. They're just not going to have a say in what they are. It seems to be a common theme in right-wing politicians' agendas...

[The Grand Nudger]

Yeah, it sounds like an option til you're faced with running gun battles in the streets, car bombs, petrol bombs, children shot, and all the rest of it.

Civic violence may get you the result you want (though that's pretty rare), but it's hardly ever worth it.

Boru

It's a very subjective appraisal, is all.  Whether or not it's "worth it".  We can say, from the pov of our shared opinion, that it probably isn't..but that's hardly an objective metric for the person making the decision. Violence can be (and often has been) the answer. That's what we have to contend with in making some uniform case against violence. We imagine the losers in these comparisons..but that ignores the fact that there are also winners.