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RE: Jesus' Mission....
November 12, 2019 at 9:42 am
(November 12, 2019 at 9:34 am)LastPoet Wrote: We're getting near xmas. Here comes the semester onslaught of dumbfuckery. The first semester is easter OFC.
Yep, gear up for the War on Christmas.
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RE: Jesus' Mission....
November 12, 2019 at 9:45 am
(November 12, 2019 at 1:44 am)ronedee Wrote: ....for the causal layman, those lacking understanding, or even interest: We are mostly here because we have both understanding and interest. You have misjudged your intended audience.
(November 12, 2019 at 1:44 am)ronedee Wrote: The curse of death for sin: Gen 2:17 "…but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.” KJV I don't care what your magic book claims, and the KJV is one of the most borked versions of said tome, being constructed by committee.
(November 12, 2019 at 1:44 am)ronedee Wrote: The only way to eradicate the curse: is for a man to live free from sin, and suffer death. Because; death was only meant for sinners!
Really? Then your god should be dead because your magic book demonstrates that your god willfully sinned aplenty. Have you not even read it?
(November 12, 2019 at 1:44 am)ronedee Wrote: How does a man live [free of sin]? Man cannot. He can only repeat it. God, in the person of Jesus can, and does live sin free. And in the process; Teaches us “The Way,
Nice catch 22 you have fabricated. To attain salvation, we must lead a sinless life, but we cannot because your god intentionally and cruelly designed that possibility out from the start. Think about that. Your god commands you to live a sinless life, but also tells you that he has made that absolutely impossible for you to do. Your god is a sadist.
(November 12, 2019 at 1:44 am)ronedee Wrote: the Truth, and the Life.” He also atones for our sins, and reconciles Himself to man, for putting sin in front of us to begin with. Much like Him saying, "I am sharing
in your humanity, and death so I might save all from eternal damnation." And Jesus dies at OUR sentencing and hands, sinless. The curse is then broken! Evidence that the alleged Jesus ever said that? The bible doesn't cut the evidential mustard, it doesn't even have eyewitness testimony.
Eternal damnation? Provide evidence for that. You cannot because there is none. Couple to that the simple fact that your god is claiming praise for saving us from the very torment that he/she/it/housecat devised in the first place. That is a bovine idea.
(November 12, 2019 at 1:44 am)ronedee Wrote: Death, then becomes a door instead of a destination! And in heeding His teachings, we avoid the “Second Death” (death of the soul). Utter gullible bollox. When one dies, one ends. Terminated. Think otherwise? Then guess what, you are once again on the evidential hook to demonstrate any life after death, let alone any crazy "second death" notion.
(November 12, 2019 at 1:44 am)ronedee Wrote: And all this..... without disrupting Free Will. AMAZING! Under your crazy conception, we have no free will at all. "Do as I say of suffer forever" is not free will, it is a hostage situation.
(November 12, 2019 at 1:44 am)ronedee Wrote: [color=#1d2129]In even simpler terms? God is not asking us to do something He wouldn’t do Himself. As far as can be determined, no deity has ever actually done anything anywhere. Even your magic book version clearly claims that jebus didn't die for us, he was merely inconvenienced for a weekend.
(November 12, 2019 at 1:44 am)ronedee Wrote: And out of pure love for ALL of us! Love? You think the god in your magic book gives a flying fuck about love? Is genocide an act of love? Is rape an act of love? Is human sacrifice an act of love? Is slavery an act of love? The god of your magic book is quite happy with all of those. Are those loving? Do you agree with them?
(November 12, 2019 at 1:44 am)ronedee Wrote: Amen Oh grow up.
Now as an aside, you claim to be catholic, but cite the KJV. Do you know why that might be a problem? Of course not.
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RE: Jesus' Mission....
November 12, 2019 at 10:03 am
(November 12, 2019 at 1:55 am)Alex K Wrote: causal layman, I like it!
But did Jesus actually live free of sin according to Christian theology? I never really thought about that.
Now here's a contributor I've missed!
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RE: Jesus' Mission....
November 12, 2019 at 1:13 pm
(November 12, 2019 at 9:12 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Sounds like the title for the worst action film ever:
'Jesus' Mission: This Time, It's Personal'
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RE: Jesus' Mission....
November 12, 2019 at 5:53 pm
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"For the only way to eternal glory is a life lived in service of our Lord, FSM; Verily it is FSM who is the perfect being the name higher than all names, king of all kings and will bestow upon us all, one day, The great reclaiming" -The Prophet Boiardi-
Conservative trigger warning.
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RE: Jesus' Mission....
November 12, 2019 at 6:00 pm
I don't understand Christians who pop up randomly here to preach. Do you really think just asserting your beliefs as true is going to work here, ronedee?
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RE: Jesus' Mission....
November 12, 2019 at 8:08 pm
I think some people legit believe that atheists are only that way because they haven't heard of Jesus yet. So maybe we'll have an epiphany if we only hear the Good News.
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RE: Jesus' Mission....
November 12, 2019 at 11:11 pm
(November 12, 2019 at 8:08 pm)Chad32 Wrote: I think some people legit believe that atheists are only that way because they haven't heard of Jesus yet. So maybe we'll have an epiphany if we only hear the Good News.
Which is why they’re so determined to push it onto kids in schools.
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RE: Jesus' Mission....
November 13, 2019 at 7:34 am
(November 12, 2019 at 9:42 am)Chad32 Wrote: (November 12, 2019 at 9:34 am)LastPoet Wrote: We're getting near xmas. Here comes the semester onslaught of dumbfuckery. The first semester is easter OFC.
Yep, gear up for the War on Christmas.
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RE: Jesus' Mission....
November 13, 2019 at 8:13 am
(November 12, 2019 at 8:08 pm)Chad32 Wrote: I think some people legit believe that atheists are only that way because they haven't heard of Jesus yet. So maybe we'll have an epiphany if we only hear the Good News.
When I spent a year in West TX 20 years ago, it was exactly like that. Not a Christian? He must either
1) be of the devil
or
2) never have heard of Jesus.
He doesn't have sulphur coming out of his ears, so we can fix this by just making him aware that Jesus is LORD.
Strangely, it didn't work.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition
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