[Serious] Time to embrace Islam!

[R00tKiT]

OP: "Time to embrace Islam. Why? Because Ad hominem logical fallacy toward Dawkins and Hitchens.

Where is the Ad hominem you're refering to? These guys ignore a great deal about the religion, and it disgusts me that you would rather back them up than acknowledge how wrong they were in spreading lies in public settings.

Christianity was secularized some centuries ago and most christians are ok with their religion being a bunch of mutually exclusive denominations. I don't think it's fair to compare that with Islam, which remained uncompromising since it began to exist.

[ThinkingIsThinking]

There is seriously no evidence of the existence of Allah.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

That's better. I hope brewer does the same and removes the stereotyped nonsense picture he posted.

Yeah, I didn't do it for you.

Boru

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

OP: "Time to embrace Islam. Why? Because Ad hominem logical fallacy toward Dawkins and Hitchens.

Where is the Ad hominem you're refering to? These guys ignore a great deal about the religion, and it disgusts me that you would rather back them up than acknowledge how wrong they were in spreading lies in public settings.

Christianity was secularized some centuries ago and most christians are ok with their religion being a bunch of mutually exclusive denominations. I don't think it's fair to compare that with Islam, which remained uncompromising since it began to exist.

If Islam has remained uncompromising, how do you explain the various sects and schools within Islam?

Boru

[LastPoet]

There is seriously no evidence of the existence of Allah.

There is. He splitted the moon. The only reason there is a full moon is that I went there and glued it. Tough work but someone had to do it

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

There is seriously no evidence of the existence of Allah.

There is. He splitted the moon. The only reason there is a full moon is that I went there and glued it. Tough work but someone had to do it

Thanks for that.  Two half-moons were giving me a headache.

Boru

[R00tKiT]

Islam appeals to the supernatural and I don't think that the supernatural is a real thing.

Until you prove the existence of any god, arguing about which one is the right one is like arguing which fairy has the shiniest wings.

I have a personal take on proofs of the existence of God. Since any logical proof of existence relies on a set of axioms that everybody agrees on to be correct, there cannot be one. We cannot prove by pure reason that anything exist, we either resort to evidence left by that thing as showing its existence or, in the case of God, we evaluate weither any prophet who claims to come from him has valid claims, and the truth of the prophet's claims is evidence of God's existence.

Let's suppose the Kalam argument is true, and is the only proof out there. Then how do you explain the details of the proof to the layman? And is it fair of God to make the only way to get to him a logical maze vey few people can get out of?

Any proof of God - not necessarily logical - has to be accessible even to the ordinary layman who cannot follow a logical train of thought. And prophetic claims are the best candidates for that.

[ThinkingIsThinking]

There is seriously no evidence of the existence of Allah.

There is. He splitted the moon. The only reason there is a full moon is that I went there and glued it. Tough work but someone had to do it

I'll withhold belief that this actually happened until further notice.

[LastPoet]

There is. He splitted the moon. The only reason there is a full moon is that I went there and glued it. Tough work but someone had to do it

Thanks for that.  Two half-moons were giving me a headache.

Boru

You know me, I can do great bricolage. Here is the bill: 23 bilion euros that you can pay in monthly installments.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Thanks for that.  Two half-moons were giving me a headache.

Boru

You know me, I can do great bricolage. Here is the bill: 23 bilion euros that you can pay in monthly installments.

Fair enough.  I'll send you a euro a month for the next 23 billion months. Keep an eye on the post.

Boru