The code that is DNA

[Deesse23]

Where did it get the stuff for the this universe?

From nowhere, you fool, he created the universe completely out of no.....oops

[Peebothuhlu]

At work.

Where did it get the stuff for the this universe?

From nowhere, you fool, he created the universe completely out of no.....oops

Well, the other option is that the diety simply used some...... 'Excressenc' of itself.

Perhaps the late Douglas Adams was properly prophetic and all of our reality actually is nothing more than being 'Diety snot'?

[LastPoet]

Richard Feynman has the best reply to these objectors to reality:

[Mister Agenda]

You saying that I have not defended my assertions is bogus, while Sungula keeps saying Tour uttered a strawman and then runs away
Oh and 40000 fly generations have produced nothing, thank you lenski

Where are you getting your number of generations from? It would take more than 1500 years to run that experiment at roughly 25 fly generations per year. It would take 16 years to get 400 generations and 60 years to get 1,500 generations. Are you sure you haven't misplaced a decimal point?

[Succubus]

A time travelling whale with magical powers is enough to explain all of existence. We need more than a story that kinda explains stuff if you squint.

A time travelling whale you say:

Another thing that got forgotten was the fact that against all probability a sperm whale had suddenly been called into existence several miles above the surface of an alien planet.
And since this is not a naturally tenable position for a whale, this poor innocent creature had very little time to come to terms with its identity as a whale before it then had to come to terms with not being a whale any more.

And the whales last thoughts were, 'I wonder if it will be friends with me?'

Curiously enough, the only thing that went through the mind of the bowl of petunias as it fell was Oh no, not again. Many people have speculated that if we knew exactly why the bowl of petunias had thought that we would know a lot more about the nature of the Universe than we do now.

Sorry. But she (?) started it!

Perhaps the late Douglas Adams was properly prophetic and all of our reality actually is nothing more than being  'Diety snot'?

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You saying that I have not defended my assertions is bogus, while Sungula keeps saying Tour uttered a strawman and then runs away
Oh and 40000 fly generations have produced nothing, thank you lenski

Where are you getting your number of generations from? It would take more than 1500 years to run that experiment at roughly 25 fly generations per year. It would take 16 years to get 400 generations and 60 years to get 1,500 generations. Are you sure you haven't misplaced a decimal point?

It's a floating decimal you see. He started with thousands and it grew to many thousands, it then stabilized at 30,000 for a while.

It now stands at 40,000 generations.

He does have a point though. After 40ky flies should be the size of Steinway fucking pianos.

[Rahn127]

At what point in the past does the energy of the universe not exist ?

[Yukon_Jack]

It’s not analogous to a few years when a new generation spawns in just one week. After 40k generations of forced mutations there is no macro evolution, no new body plans,organs, novel features just mutants. Nothing like that had been observed, there are limitations to micro evolution that stops short of macro

that's not how it works

Alex, reread absorb and actually contribute something useful to what you comprehend
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“It’s not analogous to a few years when a new generation spawns in just one week. After 40k generations of forced mutations there is no macro evolution, no new body plans,organs, novel features just mutants. Nothing like that had been observed, there are limitations to micro evolution that stops short of macro”

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You saying that I have not defended my assertions is bogus, while Sungula keeps saying Tour uttered a strawman and then runs away
Oh and 40000 fly generations have produced nothing, thank you lenski

Where are you getting your number of generations from? It would take more than 1500 years to run that experiment at roughly 25 fly generations per year. It would take 16 years to get 400 generations and 60 years to get 1,500 generations. Are you sure you haven't misplaced a decimal point?

Just ONE week my friend, one week, a quick search reveals

[no one]

Is that one of those magical Earth creating weeks?

[The Architect Of Fate]

Alex, reread absorb and actually contribute something useful to what you comprehend
Again
“It’s not analogous to a few years when a new generation spawns in just one week. After 40k generations of forced mutations there is no macro evolution, no new body plans,organs, novel features just mutants. Nothing like that had been observed, there are limitations to micro evolution that stops short of macro”

Doesn't matter how much you repeat your ignorance of Lenski's work he and the rest of biologist community are laughing at you. 

His laughter 
https://telliamedrevisited.wordpress.com...g-up-shop/

And Alex has shown a far greater understanding and contributed far more to your thread then you have.

Just ONE week my friend, one week, a quick search reveals

Dos;t change my point

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Is that one of those magical Earth creating weeks?

Lol 

[The Grand Nudger]

The trouble, for the umpteenth time, Yukon..is that we have observed speciation in the lab and in the field. Not just speciation, and not just once, but cladogenesis as well, multiple times. You can even produce this effect at home without any complicated equipment.

Unless it's wholly unimportant to you for the things you post to be true, this complaint is DOA. You could still field the objection, in a more accurate form, ofc. We have yet to observe human speciation, for example. We've seen that we came from something else - but not that something has come from us. Maybe the thing that we know can happen, that has happened, won't happen. Who knows why. The same factors are in play - but this could be the one instance in which the ball falls up.

Ultimately, this is what creationists like you, or like John, believe. It's not really the case that you don't believe in biology or facts. Now is it. There, cutting to the chase.