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The code that is DNA
RE: The code that is DNA
(December 31, 2019 at 5:40 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: Where did it get the stuff for the this universe?
From nowhere, you fool, he created the universe completely out of no.....oops Blush
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RE: The code that is DNA
At work.

(December 31, 2019 at 6:14 am)Deesse23 Wrote:
(December 31, 2019 at 5:40 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: Where did it get the stuff for the this universe?
From nowhere, you fool, he created the universe completely out of no.....oops Blush

Well, the other option is that the diety simply used some...... 'Excressenc' of itself.

Perhaps the late Douglas Adams was properly prophetic and all of our reality actually is nothing more than being 'Diety snot'?
RE: The code that is DNA
Richard Feynman has the best reply to these objectors to reality:


RE: The code that is DNA
(December 30, 2019 at 3:40 pm)Yukon_Jack Wrote: You saying that I have not defended my assertions is bogus, while Sungula keeps saying Tour uttered a strawman and then runs away
Oh and 40000 fly generations have produced nothing, thank you lenski

Where are you getting your number of generations from? It would take more than 1500 years to run that experiment at roughly 25 fly generations per year. It would take 16 years to get 400 generations and 60 years to get 1,500 generations. Are you sure you haven't misplaced a decimal point?
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RE: The code that is DNA
(December 31, 2019 at 5:40 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: A time travelling whale with magical powers is enough to explain all of existence. We need more than a story that kinda explains stuff if you squint.

A time travelling whale you say:

Quote:Another thing that got forgotten was the fact that against all probability a sperm whale had suddenly been called into existence several miles above the surface of an alien planet.
And since this is not a naturally tenable position for a whale, this poor innocent creature had very little time to come to terms with its identity as a whale before it then had to come to terms with not being a whale any more.

And the whales last thoughts were, 'I wonder if it will be friends with me?'

Quote:Curiously enough, the only thing that went through the mind of the bowl of petunias as it fell was Oh no, not again. Many people have speculated that if we knew exactly why the bowl of petunias had thought that we would know a lot more about the nature of the Universe than we do now.

Sorry. But she (?) started it!

(December 31, 2019 at 6:31 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: Perhaps the late Douglas Adams was properly prophetic and all of our reality actually is nothing more than being  'Diety snot'?

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(December 31, 2019 at 10:16 am)Mister Agenda Wrote:
(December 30, 2019 at 3:40 pm)Yukon_Jack Wrote: You saying that I have not defended my assertions is bogus, while Sungula keeps saying Tour uttered a strawman and then runs away
Oh and 40000 fly generations have produced nothing, thank you lenski

Where are you getting your number of generations from? It would take more than 1500 years to run that experiment at roughly 25 fly generations per year. It would take 16 years to get 400 generations and 60 years to get 1,500 generations. Are you sure you haven't misplaced a decimal point?

It's a floating decimal you see. He started with thousands and it grew to many thousands, it then stabilized at 30,000 for a while.

It now stands at 40,000 generations.

He does have a point though. After 40ky flies should be the size of Steinway fucking pianos.
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
RE: The code that is DNA
At what point in the past does the energy of the universe not exist ?
Insanity - Doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a different result
RE: The code that is DNA
(December 30, 2019 at 3:35 am)Alex K Wrote:
(December 30, 2019 at 12:09 am)Yukon_Jack Wrote: It’s not analogous to a few years when a new generation spawns in just one week. After 40k generations of forced mutations there is no macro evolution, no new body plans,organs, novel features just mutants. Nothing like that had been observed, there are limitations to micro evolution that stops short of macro

that's not how it works
Alex, reread absorb and actually contribute something useful to what you comprehend
Again
“It’s not analogous to a few years when a new generation spawns in just one week. After 40k generations of forced mutations there is no macro evolution, no new body plans,organs, novel features just mutants. Nothing like that had been observed, there are limitations to micro evolution that stops short of macro”

(December 31, 2019 at 10:16 am)Mister Agenda Wrote:
(December 30, 2019 at 3:40 pm)Yukon_Jack Wrote: You saying that I have not defended my assertions is bogus, while Sungula keeps saying Tour uttered a strawman and then runs away
Oh and 40000 fly generations have produced nothing, thank you lenski

Where are you getting your number of generations from? It would take more than 1500 years to run that experiment at roughly 25 fly generations per year. It would take 16 years to get 400 generations and 60 years to get 1,500 generations. Are you sure you haven't misplaced a decimal point?

Just ONE week my friend, one week, a quick search reveals
RE: The code that is DNA
Is that one of those magical Earth creating weeks?
RE: The code that is DNA
Quote:Alex, reread absorb and actually contribute something useful to what you comprehend
Again
“It’s not analogous to a few years when a new generation spawns in just one week. After 40k generations of forced mutations there is no macro evolution, no new body plans,organs, novel features just mutants. Nothing like that had been observed, there are limitations to micro evolution that stops short of macro”
Doesn't matter how much you repeat your ignorance of Lenski's work he and the rest of biologist community are laughing at you. 

His laughter 
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And Alex has shown a far greater understanding and contributed far more to your thread then you have.


Quote:Just ONE week my friend, one week, a quick search reveals
Dos;t change my point

(December 31, 2019 at 12:02 pm)no one Wrote: Is that one of those magical Earth creating weeks?

Lol  Great
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RE: The code that is DNA
The trouble, for the umpteenth time, Yukon..is that we have observed speciation in the lab and in the field. Not just speciation, and not just once, but cladogenesis as well, multiple times. You can even produce this effect at home without any complicated equipment.

Unless it's wholly unimportant to you for the things you post to be true, this complaint is DOA. You could still field the objection, in a more accurate form, ofc. We have yet to observe human speciation, for example. We've seen that we came from something else - but not that something has come from us. Maybe the thing that we know can happen, that has happened, won't happen. Who knows why. The same factors are in play - but this could be the one instance in which the ball falls up.

Ultimately, this is what creationists like you, or like John, believe. It's not really the case that you don't believe in biology or facts. Now is it. There, cutting to the chase.
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