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Evolution/creation video
#21
RE: Evolution/creation video
(December 9, 2019 at 6:07 pm)EgoDeath Wrote:
(December 9, 2019 at 11:35 am)Drich Wrote: Again Gen 1 shows man outside of the Garden and he was not said to be made of dust. He is said to be made in the image of God... From that it is possible he evolved.

Chapter 2 was a garden only narrative and a specific person Adam was created from mud and fast tracked into a fully developed homosapien. As such his given a soul.

And who is to say which creation story we're to give credence to? In the time that Genesis was written, it's said there was no need for consistency in story-telling; that the narrative was more than just a linear recounting of events. But does that hold up today? I'd say not. If we're to take the creation story as literal, then which one was it? Was it Chapter One or Chapter Two that defined the true creation? Or are we not to take the creation story as literal? And in that case, why pay it any attention at all, as scientific thinkers? Surely, if you're interested in understanding that period of time, the stories in Genesis can provide something for you. But if you're looking for an account of things that actually happened, is Genesis helpful at all?

That's the real question at the bottom of all of this.

WATCH THE VIDEO! Educate yourself before you jump in. We could very well be speaking on a creation/evolution topic you never heard of before!

Asked and answered this question my self in the video. I show that there are two separate narratives one is a 7 day creation where evolved man/the species of man is created day 6 out side the garden and the chapter 2 narrative is Garden only. meaning chapter 2 man is of a specific individual. Adam.
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#22
RE: Evolution/creation video
(December 10, 2019 at 12:15 pm)Drich Wrote:
(December 9, 2019 at 6:07 pm)EgoDeath Wrote: And who is to say which creation story we're to give credence to? In the time that Genesis was written, it's said there was no need for consistency in story-telling; that the narrative was more than just a linear recounting of events. But does that hold up today? I'd say not. If we're to take the creation story as literal, then which one was it? Was it Chapter One or Chapter Two that defined the true creation? Or are we not to take the creation story as literal? And in that case, why pay it any attention at all, as scientific thinkers? Surely, if you're interested in understanding that period of time, the stories in Genesis can provide something for you. But if you're looking for an account of things that actually happened, is Genesis helpful at all?

That's the real question at the bottom of all of this.

WATCH THE VIDEO! Educate yourself before you jump in. We could very well be speaking on a creation/evolution topic you never heard of before!

Asked and answered this question my self in the video. I show that there are two separate narratives one is a 7 day creation where evolved man/the species of man is created day 6 out side the garden and the chapter 2 narrative is Garden only. meaning chapter 2 man is of a specific individual. Adam.
I do plan on seeing your video, I'm scheduling my lobotomy beforehand.
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#23
RE: Evolution/creation video
(December 6, 2019 at 4:43 pm)Drich Wrote:
(December 6, 2019 at 4:05 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: How do you test a religion? Especially one from another? Promises are a vague thing, but whatever.

All relgions have a quid pro quoe. you do ABC the deity provides XYZ..

Find out the ABC do it and see what happens.

If the ABC has to happen through and indivisual/preist whatever then the test is tainted. if the result of your ABC has to be interpreted by a priest or what ever the test is tainted.

The God of the bible works with people directly.

People that believe in the Bible god CLAIM that the Bible god works with people directly.

How does one go about testing if this claim is actually true?

I am pretty sure that you would accept that some percentage of people that believe that the Bible god worked with them directly, were actually: mistaken, or delusional, or misinterpreting a natural brain state (for example, temporal lobe epilepsy) as the Bible god working with them, and the Bible god did not actually work with them directly.

How does one go about telling the difference? How does one that sincerely believes the Bible god worked with them directly, actually verify they are correct?

How am I supposed to tell the difference between someone that actually had the Bible god work with someone directly, and someone who is mistaking or delusional?

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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#24
RE: Evolution/creation video
(December 10, 2019 at 12:15 pm)Drich Wrote: WATCH THE VIDEO! Educate yourself before you jump in. We could very well be speaking on a creation/evolution topic you never heard of before!

Asked and answered this question my self in the video. I show that there are two separate narratives one is a 7 day creation where evolved man/the species of man is created day 6 out side the garden and the chapter 2 narrative is Garden only. meaning chapter 2 man is of a specific individual. Adam.

I'm not sure why you cannot just give a short, summarized answer here, but okay, I will watch the video at some point. If it doesn't have the explicit answers to what I'm asking, I'm going to virtually slap you.
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#25
RE: Evolution/creation video
(December 10, 2019 at 6:48 pm)EgoDeath Wrote:
(December 10, 2019 at 12:15 pm)Drich Wrote: WATCH THE VIDEO! Educate yourself before you jump in. We could very well be speaking on a creation/evolution topic you never heard of before!

Asked and answered this question my self in the video. I show that there are two separate narratives one is a 7 day creation where evolved man/the species of man is created day 6 out side the garden and the chapter 2 narrative is Garden only. meaning chapter 2 man is of a specific individual. Adam.

I'm not sure why you cannot just give a short, summarized answer here, but okay, I will watch the video at some point. If it doesn't have the explicit answers to what I'm asking, I'm going to virtually slap you.

Can I watch?  Snacks
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#26
RE: Evolution/creation video
(December 10, 2019 at 8:32 pm)Gwaithmir Wrote:
(December 10, 2019 at 6:48 pm)EgoDeath Wrote: I'm not sure why you cannot just give a short, summarized answer here, but okay, I will watch the video at some point. If it doesn't have the explicit answers to what I'm asking, I'm going to virtually slap you.

Can I watch?  Snacks

Sure! Bring tacos please Smile
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#27
RE: Evolution/creation video
I still have yet to hear a more hilariously incompetent bit of bullshit.
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#28
RE: Evolution/creation video
So I watched your video, and you've answered none of my questions in the video. All you've done in the video is say that chapter 2 is "a second narrative" or "a separate narrative" and how there's "no timeline" between chapters 2 and 3... Okay? So what? You've not provided answers to anything I asked you in my above post.

Also, some tips for public speaking, from an accomplished public speaker:

-Know what you want to say before you say it. This doesn't require a script, but you should maybe consider a script. I'd prefer to hear someone who sounds a bit more "artificial," making clear, concise points in an orderly fashion than to hear you bumble and stumble over your words for twelve minutes and "sound authentic" because you couldn't be bothered to stick to a script.

-Outline your main points, then support those main points with minor points that help explain and wrap up what you're trying to say.

-Speak clearly. You were sort of mumbling a lot of the time and it was hard to understand what you were saying or where you were trying to go with your ideas.

-Have some emotion in your voice. When you're speaking for any amount of time and want to keep peoples attention, it's advisable to not speak in some droning, monotone voice that makes it sound like you're reciting a grocery list.

Just some constructive criticism. Outside of that, you've not answered the questions I asked, like you promised the video would, and I want my money back.

*virtually slaps Drich
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#29
RE: Evolution/creation video
Your voice and delivery is perfect for ASMR/sleep content.

Got any longer videos?
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#30
RE: Evolution/creation video
Genesis Earth came to exist before the sun.  It was a water world with the spirit of god hovering over it.  Then came the sun, dividing day and night.  Whether it's evolution or cosmology, any attempt to resolve Genesis with science comes to a halt in the first four verses.

Either you have faith or you don't.  Why the need to show how matters of faith fit with science?
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