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Latino is not a race
#21
RE: Latino is not a race
When I saw the title of the topic I thought "Wut? Did Edward James Olmos join the AF?"



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#22
RE: Latino is not a race
There is only one race, the human race.

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#23
RE: Latino is not a race
(December 11, 2019 at 6:22 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: There is only one race, the human race.

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Ugh I can’t stand these the “human race” bullshit people. If it were the only thing that mattered the rest of us wouldn’t be complaining now would we?
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#24
RE: Latino is not a race
BQ. Science separates us by classification. Society is responsible for bringing us together.

All that matters is who we are and how we treat people, no Dunno

But our tribalism is embedded deep into our dna.

We will evolve past that … give it 500 years ...
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#25
RE: Latino is not a race
(December 15, 2019 at 3:11 am)ignoramus Wrote: BQ. Science separates us by classification. Society is responsible for bringing us together.

All that matters is who we are and how we treat people, no Dunno

But our tribalism is embedded deep into our dna.

We will evolve past that … give it 500 years ...

If tribalism was that deeply embedded the world would’ve never evolved past hunter gatherers. I don’t believe in tribalism. It’s a poor excuse to treat people we perceive as different badly.
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#26
RE: Latino is not a race
"Birds of a feather flock together" IS why we have survived this long!
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#27
RE: Latino is not a race
We use the term tribalism almost exclusively as an insult, but if we could channel that very strong and very effective human urge towards more inclusive ends - a tribe of a bigger tent - then we might see how beneficial tribalism has always been as a tool.

The things we already take to be bad about tribalism don't actually have to be leveraged for what they currently are. The fact that they're so good at producing good outcomes for the tribe at the cost of bad outcomes for the other already demonstrates their ability and value in the abstract. It's hard to see why would evolve out of it. It's advantageous in the only way that matters to biology.

Tribalism is a hammer that we're pounding the wrong nails with (though the nails we've been pounding with it thusfar haven't always been the worst). That's the underlying conjecture of so much sci-fi, lol. If something happened or we learned something that made us, as human beings, feel like there was a "human tribe" - then we might galavant all over creation shittifying the lives of other species....but it would work pretty well for us. Humanity, as a whole, doing what tribes do. Offloading the cost of their desires and necessities and connecting at the level of a shared struggle between themselves and some Other. The Other being aliens, or the stark realization of the vastness of space and our complete and utter loneliness in it..or even whatever portion of humanity commits themselves to destructive ends for that larger tribe.

My take on tribalism, anyway.
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#28
RE: Latino is not a race
(December 9, 2019 at 9:12 pm)BrokenQuill92 Wrote: To people arguing in the Zimmerman thread. Okay peeps seemed really confused by the difference between Latino and Hispanic. And that neither of those terms is a racial category. Latino is anyone descending from Latin America. Hispanic is a Spanish speaking person of Latin descent. You can be Latino but not Hispanic, like myself, my father is Afro-Cuban but I was raised in Ohio and do not speak Spanish. I’m still Latina but not Hispanic. See the difference? Okay have a nice day.

As someone who was born in Panama City this actually drives me nuts! Both my parents were stationed down in Panama City. Mom was Air Force, and Dad was Navy. My Dad is of Panamanian descent though. His family immigrated to the U.S. when he was 5. I have white skin and in theory I can consider myself Latino. However once I put it on a job application and my employer said "On your application you state you are of Hispanic heritage but you're white". I really hope this guy went home and googled what being Latino or Hispanic heritage means and that it has nothing to do with race.
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#29
RE: Latino is not a race
(December 16, 2019 at 9:27 am)NightHawk Wrote:
(December 9, 2019 at 9:12 pm)BrokenQuill92 Wrote: To people arguing in the Zimmerman thread. Okay peeps seemed really confused by the difference between Latino and Hispanic. And that neither of those terms is a racial category. Latino is anyone descending from Latin America. Hispanic is a Spanish speaking person of Latin descent. You can be Latino but not Hispanic, like myself, my father is Afro-Cuban but I was raised in Ohio and do not speak Spanish. I’m still Latina but not Hispanic. See the difference? Okay have a nice day
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#30
RE: Latino is not a race
(December 9, 2019 at 9:34 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: I put "Martian" as my race once. Nobody blinked. They'd already seen "Zoroastrian" in the Religion box.

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