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[Quranic Reflection]: The tolerance the Quran gave non-believers
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The tolerance the Quran gave non-believers
(December 25, 2019 at 10:12 am)LastPoet Wrote:
(December 25, 2019 at 9:43 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: So, despite massive evidence to the contrary, Atass is clinging to his quote-mining exception to the reality if Islam.

Never forget the crusades, ww1 ww2, atom bombs, bell pants and everything in the west that the quranic people use to excuse their barbarity... to this day.

But, but bell bottoms are horrible! Think
Cetero censeo religionem delendam esse
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#32
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The tolerance the Quran gave non-believers
Tolerance is condescending. Acceptance is better. Muhammed can go fuck himself.
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#33
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The tolerance the Quran gave non-believers
[Image: taslima.jpg]
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#34
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The tolerance the Quran gave non-believers
(December 25, 2019 at 4:34 am)AtlasS33 Wrote:
(December 24, 2019 at 12:29 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: And you have completely missed my point. Anyone can look around at the world they live in. That tells us nothing about whether or not Islam is true versus any other religion. You’re solution to this problem is, “read the Quran”, or in other words, “if you read the Quran it will prove its claims are true.” Circular argument.

That's why you must "accompany observing the universe with reading the Quran and consider the experiences of life".

The other religions prove obsolete when their content is read: they either contradict what we observe, or they contain an obvious fingerprint of a man -like First Council of Nicaea-.

Not according to the people who believe those books are true, and they’ve got all kinds of Reasons why, just as you do. Your argument is logically invalid, buddy. No amount of Quran-splaining is going to change that.
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The tolerance the Quran gave non-believers
(December 25, 2019 at 12:47 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: [Image: taslima.jpg]

That's retarded, sir. Why Muhammad didn't kill his uncle then ? Hehe
Qur'anic revelation is the sole path to ultimate reality. All argumentation and philosophy is an expression of arrogance and an overestimation of human cognitive ability. 

"But believe me, Cleanthes, the most natural feeling that a well-disposed mind will have on this occasion is a longing desire and expectation that God will be pleased to remove or at least to lessen this profound ignorance, by giving mankind some particular revelation, revealing the nature, attributes, and operations of the divine object of our faith." (Hume's Dialogues)


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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The tolerance the Quran gave non-believers
(December 25, 2019 at 1:30 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:
(December 25, 2019 at 12:47 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: [Image: taslima.jpg]

That's retarded, sir. Why Muhammad didn't kill his uncle then ? Hehe

Well she does have several fatwas calling for her murder so that's your Koranic intolerance.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#37
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The tolerance the Quran gave non-believers
(December 25, 2019 at 1:38 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote:
(December 25, 2019 at 1:30 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: That's retarded, sir. Why Muhammad didn't kill his uncle then ? Hehe

Well she does have several fatwas calling for her murder so that's your Koranic intolerance.

You didn't answer my question.
Qur'anic revelation is the sole path to ultimate reality. All argumentation and philosophy is an expression of arrogance and an overestimation of human cognitive ability. 

"But believe me, Cleanthes, the most natural feeling that a well-disposed mind will have on this occasion is a longing desire and expectation that God will be pleased to remove or at least to lessen this profound ignorance, by giving mankind some particular revelation, revealing the nature, attributes, and operations of the divine object of our faith." (Hume's Dialogues)


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#38
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The tolerance the Quran gave non-believers
(December 25, 2019 at 8:49 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: I'm not sure why a council would be an issue for christianity, but not for islam.  The quran was also compiled by a group of people who had thoughts about what should and shouldn't be in magic book.

No similar council was issued to write the Quran; actually Mohammed -peace be upon him- was alive and present when the Quran was written.

The councils of late were used to write the Hadith.
That's one of the reasons why I reject the Hadith.

(December 25, 2019 at 9:04 am)LastPoet Wrote:
(December 25, 2019 at 8:49 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: I'm not sure why a council would be an issue for christianity, but not for islam.  The quran was also compiled by a group of people who had thoughts about what should and shouldn't be in magic book.

When telling a story, someone adds a dot, a comma etc. This is easily tested. Create a circle of 20 people. Tell the starter to whisper to the other on his right something written. When you get to the original speaker tell him to write what he heard after the transmission. A simple e exercise

Christian councils changed the "meanings" of the bible, that's not the case with the Quran.

(December 25, 2019 at 10:33 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:
(December 25, 2019 at 10:12 am)LastPoet Wrote: Never forget the crusades, ww1 ww2, atom bombs, bell pants and everything in the west that the quranic people use to excuse their barbarity... to this day.
And places like Dubai where observant Islamists can go to gamble, drink, and whore.

So now the U.A.E is a row-model for Muslims?
And I thought I heard it all..but the OP; Sama. Discuss that.

(December 25, 2019 at 1:02 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:
(December 25, 2019 at 4:34 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: That's why you must "accompany observing the universe with reading the Quran and consider the experiences of life".

The other religions prove obsolete when their content is read: they either contradict what we observe, or they contain an obvious fingerprint of a man -like First Council of Nicaea-.

Not according to the people who believe those books are true, and they’ve got all kinds of Reasons why, just as you do. Your argument is logically invalid, buddy. No amount of Quran-splaining is going to change that.

They can believe what they want; as long as keeping their knives home when meeting me.
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#39
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The tolerance the Quran gave non-believers
You don't set the agenda, Fatwa ass.
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The tolerance the Quran gave non-believers
(December 25, 2019 at 1:54 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:
(December 25, 2019 at 1:38 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Well she does have several fatwas calling for her murder so that's your Koranic intolerance.

You didn't answer my question.

Maybe because Mohammed had sex with his uncle's wife.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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