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[Quranic Reflection]: The tolerance the Quran gave non-believers
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The tolerance the Quran gave non-believers
(December 25, 2019 at 1:54 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:
(December 25, 2019 at 1:38 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Well she does have several fatwas calling for her murder so that's your Koranic intolerance.

You didn't answer my question.

Your question is irrelevant because you have no evidence that the supernatural claims in your book are true. You have given us no reason to be concerned about what it says.
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The tolerance the Quran gave non-believers
(December 25, 2019 at 2:08 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:
(December 25, 2019 at 8:49 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: I'm not sure why a council would be an issue for christianity, but not for islam.  The quran was also compiled by a group of people who had thoughts about what should and shouldn't be in magic book.

No similar council was issued to write the Quran; actually Mohammed -peace be upon him- was alive and present when the Quran was written.

The councils of late were used to write the Hadith.
That's one of the reasons why I reject the Hadith.
Yes, there was.  The people who compiled your magic book didn't seem to think that it was a problem - they're the ones that recorded it - just as the christians had before them.  

What sort of islam requires it's adherents to deny plain facts of history?

For Kloro - pretty much the same.  Big Mo waged war against his own family from the outset.  I'm not sure what that's meant to prove, but since you asked, and since you should know that...there it is.

Honestly, everytime one of you islamist types post..I understand you a little more. Stuck in a woefully impoverished tradition of miseducation - you imagine that the rest of us will be wowed by middle school history - of our regions..or of your own. Perhaps you should turn that light inward?
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The tolerance the Quran gave non-believers
(December 25, 2019 at 3:05 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:
(December 25, 2019 at 1:54 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: You didn't answer my question.

Your question is irrelevant because you have no evidence that the supernatural claims in your book are true. You have given us no reason to be concerned about what it says.

It's pointless to discuss the credibility of holy books if we disagree on more fundamental issues, namely the existence of God. For the latter I would say it is more reasonable to think there is a God than not, given that all the recent big advances in science point in favor of a theist explanation (the universe turned out to have a beginning, QM gives an ontological position to the observer, etc.)
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#44
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The tolerance the Quran gave non-believers
if you continue to refute and invalidate my ill-conceived fantasy with your logic and reasoning, I will be forced to reach deeper into my bag of preposterous absurdities to fortify my aforementioned preposterous absurdities!
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#45
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The tolerance the Quran gave non-believers
Quote:It's pointless to discuss the credibility of holy books if we disagree on more fundamental issues, namely the existence of God.

False 

Quote: For the latter I would say it is more reasonable to think there is a God than not, 

Assertion 

Quote:given that all the recent big advances in science point in favor of a theist explanation (the universe turned out to have a beginning, QM gives an ontological position to the observer, etc.)
No it doesn't QM is as atheist as gravity

Quote:That's retarded, sir. Why Muhammad didn't kill his uncle then ? [Image: hehe.gif]
Making exceptions for his  own relatives doesn' refute his point .You always think you have come up with some clever counter .When you clearly have not thought it though .
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#46
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The tolerance the Quran gave non-believers
The existence of a god has absolutely no bearing on the credibility of a book written by human beings. The notion that we must agree on gods to even begin to discuss magic book is an excuse for your own incompetence and frustration.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#47
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The tolerance the Quran gave non-believers
(December 25, 2019 at 4:12 pm)no one Wrote: if you continue to refute and invalidate my ill-conceived fantasy with your logic and reasoning, I will be forced to reach deeper into my bag of preposterous absurdities to fortify my aforementioned preposterous absurdities!

That the universe has a beginning is an absurdity to you? Shouldn't the fact that some physical constants a tuned to the fucking 122th zero raise a slight concern that you're missing out on something?
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The tolerance the Quran gave non-believers
(December 25, 2019 at 4:01 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:
(December 25, 2019 at 3:05 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Your question is irrelevant because you have no evidence that the supernatural claims in your book are true. You have given us no reason to be concerned about what it says.

It's pointless to discuss the credibility of holy books if we disagree on more fundamental issues, namely the existence of God.

A debate about the credibility of a holy book requires the person arguing for its credibility provide external, corroborating evidence to support the truth, or likely truth of its claims. So far, that hasn’t happened.

Quote:For the latter I would say it is more reasonable to think there is a God than not, given that all the recent big advances in science point in favor of a theist explanation (the universe turned out to have a beginning, QM gives an ontological position to the observer, etc.)
I would argue that you have fundamentally misunderstood the recent advances in science that theists, and only theists (certainly not the scientists who have contributed to these advances) seem to think point to a creator, lol.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

Wiser words were never spoken. 
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#49
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The tolerance the Quran gave non-believers
......and I rest my case.
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#50
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The tolerance the Quran gave non-believers
Quote:That the universe has a beginning is an absurdity to you?

Nothing supports this 


Quote: Shouldn't the fact that some physical constants a tuned to the fucking 122th zero raise a slight concern that you're missing out on something?
Nope because i don't make universe conform to my personal credulity or become overwhelmed by big numbers .Children do that .
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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