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Search for Causes
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 ![[Image: icon_quote.jpg]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=www.trackie.com%2Ftrack-and-field%2Fimg%2Flayout%2Ficon_quote.jpg) Lek:It seems that this thread has devolved into repetition. I stand by what I've said. Thanks for the discussion and debate. Translation: Logic is used to expose the utter inconsistency of my fabricated explanations. I depart with my knickers in a twist.  ![[Image: House.jpg]](https://i.postimg.cc/8PyKHXK8/House.jpg)
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
RE: Search for Causes
January 8, 2020 at 5:14 pm
(This post was last modified: January 8, 2020 at 5:14 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Well shhhhhhucks. I guess we'll never get to hear how crystal healing, astrology, voodoo and the chupacabra also demonstrate that god is at work in the universe.
-and nothing of value was lost.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Let's not downplay the Chupacabra, I saw a few of them on the X-Files once.
It seems to be a bit disingenuous to claim to 'search for causes' and almost immediately reject theistic naturalism out of hand. This gives the impression that one is searching for a particular cause, and will accept no other. So, it isn't really a 'search' so much as it is an exercise in confirmation bias.
Boru
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RE: Search for Causes
January 8, 2020 at 6:31 pm
(This post was last modified: January 8, 2020 at 6:37 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
He rejects the accurate categorization of his beliefs as he describes them here. More dissonant than disingenuous. Honestly, it's a shame. The future of christianity, if it's to have a future, is going to be in separating superstition from whatever amounts to an essential christian truth, capable of being explained unobjectionably within the framework that dominates all contemporary thought, believing or otherwise.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
 (January 8, 2020 at 5:14 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Well shhhhhhucks. I guess we'll never get to hear how crystal healing, astrology, voodoo and the chupacabra also demonstrate that god is at work in the universe. Oh, Satan is responsible for that whole chupacabra thing.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Wiser words were never spoken. (January 8, 2020 at 5:55 pm)no one Wrote: Let's not downplay the Chupacabra, I saw a few of them on the X-Files once. Scully: “Oh, and it’s not that Mexican goat sucker either.”
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Wiser words were never spoken.  (January 7, 2020 at 7:13 pm)Lek Wrote: Let me say that my belief in God and the supernatural doesn't come from my observation and experience of the natural world. It comes directly from God. Here, I'll try again. I have noticed that, even though I posted this on several of your threads where you claim that a god revealed something to you, you have yet to respond: How do you know it was actually a god revealing something to you? Is everyone that sincerely claims that a god revealed something to them, relaying factual information (I'm not accusing them of lying, just mistaking)? Are there any percentage of people, who claim that a god revealed something to them, mistaking some other type if experience as that of a god's revelation? If yes to the above, how do you know you are not one these people? What sort of tests did you run in order to eliminate other possibilities other than a god? And how are those of us, who are skeptical that anyone is having gods reveal things to them, supposed to tell the difference between those of you who actually had a god reveal things to them, and those that sincerely believe a god revealed things to them, but were mistaking? You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
It seems he has no answer to that particular question. It seems he thought if he said, “come on guys, just believe me!”, that would work. When it didn’t, he took his ball and left.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
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