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[Quranic Reflection]: Evolution
#11
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: Evolution
Its tiring how he reads some bullshit in his magic book and then tries to shoehorn it into our understanding of the universe. This one appears as kind of rock bottom of his stupidity, but i fear he will show me wrong...

Whats even worse, he comes here and tries ...what exactly? To convince anyone here of this nonsense? He should know by now that most people in here have way higher standards for believing than he has, if what he has can be called any standard at all. Facepalm
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#12
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: Evolution
What kind of shit god has to teach people to speak?
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#13
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: Evolution
(January 12, 2020 at 4:29 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: One of the most haunting verses in the Quran is the statement of God that he taught humans how to speak:

No, that was Vé, Odin's younger brother. He also gave us hearing and sight. Prometheus gave us fire.
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#14
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: Evolution
(January 12, 2020 at 5:25 am)AtlasS33 Wrote:
(January 12, 2020 at 5:07 am)Deesse23 Wrote: God, this was retarded, even by your own standard, and that already is as low a 1mm above the carpet.

You say:
and then:
Facepalm

Exactly. God's acts might take so many millenniums, his creation of things might even take millions of years.
Yes he taught our specie how to speak, the time it took is obsolete.

Judging by the conclusion is what matters.

You say “conclusion” as if you presented some sort of argument, rather than a bald assertion.
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#15
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: Evolution
How could one tell the difference between a language that evolved over (say) 100 millennia and one that Allah taught people to speak over the same length of time?

Boru
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#16
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: Evolution
(January 12, 2020 at 5:53 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: How could one tell the difference between a language that evolved over (say) 100 millennia and one that Allah taught people to speak over the same length of time?

Boru

The Anthropomorphism that enforces an image to such event does not represent my OP.
You know what I mean: the heathen picture of a Zeus-like God sitting on a chair of clouds and teaching humanity over the millenniums.

Instead; I reject such way in picturing the event, but I think about the first "Homo erectus" to learn how to use his/her tongue and lips to produce a word.

(January 12, 2020 at 9:16 am)Deesse23 Wrote: Its tiring how he reads some bullshit in his magic book and then tries to shoehorn it into our understanding of the universe. This one appears as kind of rock bottom of his stupidity, but i fear he will show me wrong...

Whats even worse, he comes here and tries ...what exactly? To convince anyone here of this nonsense? He should know by now that most people in here have way higher standards for believing than he has, if what he has can be called any standard at all. Facepalm

Focus on the OP, please.

Though; there's a Muslim section here and I happen to be a Muslim; so I post my ideas in it.
Muslim forums would ban me, with a majority assuming I'm a heretic for rejecting the Hadith.

Here, I have friends. I spent almost a decade in this place, I can write my thoughts and belief without fear.

I can uncover lots of misconceptions about the Quran, and expose the massive crimes the Sunni/Shiite institutions are doing.

So, the OP.
discuss that.

(January 12, 2020 at 5:14 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:
(January 12, 2020 at 5:25 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: Exactly. God's acts might take so many millenniums, his creation of things might even take millions of years.
Yes he taught our specie how to speak, the time it took is obsolete.

Judging by the conclusion is what matters.

You say “conclusion” as if you presented some sort of argument, rather than a bald assertion.

The Quran said that God taught humans how to "speak".
Thus they didn't know how to speak before.

If that doesn't prove evolution to you, I don't know what might prove it.
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#17
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: Evolution
(January 13, 2020 at 5:09 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: Focus on the OP, please.
Focus on what? You have presented exactly nothing of substance, as usual Facepalm
You tried to connect evolution with "...and god taught humans to speak". How ridiculous is that? Hehe  


(January 13, 2020 at 5:09 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: Though; there's a Muslim section here and I happen to be a Muslim; so I post my ideas in it.
Muslim forums would ban me, with a majority assuming I'm a heretic for rejecting the Hadith.
Then you should honor the hospitality here by actually absorbing some of what you are being told. For example how fundamentally flawed and how biased your thinking is.
Isnt it a bit RUDE to spam a forum with endless nonsense, just because you are allowed to? To bother others with your ramblings without actually engaging in discourse (because changing the topic, whataboutism and crazy word games are your modus operandi here).

You act as if someone offends you, while you are the one running around in this forum and offending everyone else. How self absorbed.

(January 13, 2020 at 5:09 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: Here, I have friends. I spent almost a decade in this place, I can write my thoughts and belief without fear.
...and obviously you havent learned a bit, if your thinking is still that flawed after ten years. Have you ever considered to ASK anyone if they WANT to listen to your thoughts and belief? You sound exatly like so many of the religious: You are not here to talk with us, you are here to talk AT us, and i consider that to be rude and offensive. Consider this.

(January 13, 2020 at 5:09 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: I can uncover lots of misconceptions about the Quran, and expose the massive crimes the Sunni/Shiite institutions are doing.

So, the OP.
discuss that.
So far you havent uncovered anything that not everyone in here already knew. However you tried, and i bet will continue to do, so to excuse muslim slavery and other atrocities. You are not here to provide a balanced view on your religion, you are here to advertise and excuse your particular version of it, just like every other religious zealot does and would do. So please stop pretending your are a knight in shiny armor or what the equivalent in your part of the world is.
Cetero censeo religionem delendam esse
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#18
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: Evolution
(January 13, 2020 at 5:09 am)AtlasS33 Wrote:
(January 12, 2020 at 5:53 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: How could one tell the difference between a language that evolved over (say) 100 millennia and one that Allah taught people to speak over the same length of time?

Boru

The Anthropomorphism that enforces an image to such event does not represent my OP.
You know what I mean: the heathen picture of a Zeus-like God sitting on a chair of clouds and teaching humanity over the millenniums.

Instead; I reject such way in picturing the event, but I think about the first "Homo erectus" to learn how to use his/her tongue and lips to produce a word.

(January 12, 2020 at 9:16 am)Deesse23 Wrote: Its tiring how he reads some bullshit in his magic book and then tries to shoehorn it into our understanding of the universe. This one appears as kind of rock bottom of his stupidity, but i fear he will show me wrong...

Whats even worse, he comes here and tries ...what exactly? To convince anyone here of this nonsense? He should know by now that most people in here have way higher standards for believing than he has, if what he has can be called any standard at all. Facepalm

Focus on the OP, please.

Though; there's a Muslim section here and I happen to be a Muslim; so I post my ideas in it.
Muslim forums would ban me, with a majority assuming I'm a heretic for rejecting the Hadith.

Here, I have friends. I spent almost a decade in this place, I can write my thoughts and belief without fear.

I can uncover lots of misconceptions about the Quran, and expose the massive crimes the Sunni/Shiite institutions are doing.

So, the OP.
discuss that.

(January 12, 2020 at 5:14 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: You say “conclusion” as if you presented some sort of argument, rather than a bald assertion.

The Quran said that God taught humans how to "speak".
Thus they didn't know how to speak before.

If that doesn't prove evolution to you, I don't know what might prove it.

So you're saying you believe in Theistic Evolution. Fine.
Quite why you think atheists would agree with this is a somewhat beyond me.
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Evolution - Adapt or be eaten.
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#19
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: Evolution
(January 13, 2020 at 5:09 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: If that doesn't prove evolution to you, I don't know what might prove it.

Ha, 10/10!
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#20
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: Evolution
There are a few atheists that don't believe evolution. I know one IRL. Crazy mofo.

However, those that accept the evidence for evolution do not need that extra assumption of a god to understand it's true and happening. It's the part we borrow occam's razor.
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