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RE: By chance?
January 27, 2020 at 9:23 pm
Quote:Again the insults from the juveniles are a badge of honor, feel free to keep them coming
Nah criticism from adults for having the mindset of a juvenile, And yes like most fringealoons your proud of your ignorance and think yourself some intellectual martyr. Such delusions too bad no actual accomplishments to pair with such confidence.
Quote:It’s the fact that a Perfect pair of ’s eyes appears on the butterflies wings,
ow many mutations did it take for that to happen? Was it just one eye first then d part of the second eye and then the irises after?
Then the rest of the second eye?
And what about how far they are spaced apart, in perfect proportion. What luck!!!
So argument from credulity and ignorance etc etc etc
By the way how much divine tinkering did i take ?
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RE: By chance?
January 27, 2020 at 9:44 pm
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Again the insults from the juveniles are a badge of honor, feel free to keep them coming
Translation:
Mommy couldn't help me wif da big words. So, I wiww act reawwy, reawwy, bwave.
tater tot:
It’s the fact that a Perfect pair of ’s eyes appears on the butterflies wings,
ow many mutations did it take for that to happen? Was it just one eye first then d part of the second eye and then the irises after?
Then the rest of the second eye?
And what about how far they are spaced apart, in perfect proportion. What luck!!!
Your reasoning skills, or lack thereof, paint a rather dismal picture of your deeply shallow gene pool.
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RE: By chance?
January 28, 2020 at 8:49 am
(January 27, 2020 at 7:57 pm)Yukon_Jack Wrote: Again the insults from the juveniles are a badge of honor, feel free to keep them coming
It’s the fact that a Perfect pair of ’s eyes appears on the butterflies wings,
It's a pattern that we interpret as eyes. Those patterns of pigment don't see anything. Have someone read this to you.
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RE: By chance?
January 28, 2020 at 11:24 am
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(January 27, 2020 at 7:57 pm)Yukon_Jack Wrote: Again the insults from the juveniles are a badge of honor, feel free to keep them coming
It’s the fact that a Perfect pair of ’s eyes appears on the butterflies wings,
ow many mutations did it take for that to happen? Was it just one eye first then d part of the second eye and then the irises after?
Then the rest of the second eye?
And what about how far they are spaced apart, in perfect proportion. What luck!!!
It only took 10,000 years for humans to utilize artificial selection to get, friendly, easily trainable, 25 pound dachshunds from 120 pound, wild, barely manageable, wolfs. All humans had to do, is start selecting for is, mutations for slightly more social wolfs (those that seemed to interact a bit more with humans), and slightly shorter legs, and breeding them.
Why do you think nature couldn't select for mutations on butterfly wings that slightly looked like the eyes of a more threatening animal, giving them a slight reproductive and survival advantage, thereby selecting them to continue to pass down their genes?
And by the way, those butterflies with 'perfect owl eye' wing patterns are not even 100% effective against being eaten by their predators. A decent percentage still get eaten. The eye patterns just give them a moderate survival advantage, not a complete survival advantage.
What is the biological mechanism that you think exists to prevent this process for butterflies, but allows it for wolfs and dogs?
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: By chance?
January 28, 2020 at 12:01 pm
Sometimes, when I'm floating the Buffalo River, I look up at the towering walls of limestone, with their streaks of white, caramel bands and shiny anthracite. I like to imagine a sky-scraper sized Bob Ross dabbing those bluffs with his palette knife, then lining the cliffs and ledges with junipers from his brush. What a happy world. How else could it be so picture perfect?
Then I realize, dude, you're stoned. Hell's half acre is around the next bend. You better shake it off.
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RE: By chance?
January 29, 2020 at 11:22 am
As to whether one eye formed, then the other: due to bilateral symmetry, wing mutations in butterflies often effect both wings simultaneously.
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RE: By chance?
January 29, 2020 at 1:30 pm
(January 23, 2020 at 3:43 pm)Yukon_Jack Wrote: The fact that a picture perfect like artist rendition of owls eyes, BOTH EYES, replete w iris colors to match that of the mighty predator owl appears on a butterfly by CHANCE
It was not by chance but by NATURAL SELECTION. Here's for instance Carl Sagan explaining how crabs near Japan all got to have samurai face on their back
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: By chance?
January 29, 2020 at 1:49 pm
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(January 29, 2020 at 1:30 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: (January 23, 2020 at 3:43 pm)Yukon_Jack Wrote: The fact that a picture perfect like artist rendition of owls eyes, BOTH EYES, replete w iris colors to match that of the mighty predator owl appears on a butterfly by CHANCE
It was not by chance but by NATURAL SELECTION. Here's for instance Carl Sagan explaining how crabs near Japan all got to have samurai face on their back
The topic in this thread is evolution. I think it is very unwise of you to bring an actual scientist into the discussion. As we all know, evolution is best debated through willful ignorance, deliberate falsehood, and intellectual laziness.
Get with the programme.
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RE: By chance?
January 29, 2020 at 2:40 pm
BSB4:
willful ignorance, deliberate falsehood, and intellectual laziness.
How did you manage to come into possession of tater tot's resume, BSB4?
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RE: By chance?
January 29, 2020 at 2:51 pm
(January 29, 2020 at 2:40 pm)no one Wrote: BSB4:
willful ignorance, deliberate falsehood, and intellectual laziness.
How did you manage to come into possession of tater tot's resume, BSB4?
That’s classified.
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