By chance?

[downbeatplumb]

So someone here quoted
“The mutations may be random, the selection process is not. ”

Again, NS is wholly dependent upon 100% random mutations. Are you still denying this and calling me crazy? That’s rich
NS can only keep traits caused by 100% randomness and I know “evolution “ occurs over time
But tell me you find it normal happenstance
That a perfect set of owls eyes will appear?
I keep bringing this up because I want to know the logistics of how you fall for this crazy lucky coincidences.

Well now you have actually hit on one of the easiest to explain the evolution of the eye. 
Every part of the evolution is of the eye is both in fossil records and evident in animals alive now.
In some animals there are even instances where eyes have evolved twice with each set working in different ways.

[zebo-the-fat]

So someone here quoted
“The mutations may be random, the selection process is not. ”

Again, NS is wholly dependent upon 100% random mutations. Are you still denying this and calling me crazy? That’s rich
NS can only keep traits caused by 100% randomness and I know “evolution “ occurs over time
But tell me you find it normal happenstance
That a perfect set of owls eyes will appear?
I keep bringing this up because I want to know the logistics of how you fall for this crazy lucky coincidences.

How do you fall for this intelligent design crazyness? Who designed this designer of yours?

[Fake Messiah]

So someone here quoted
“The mutations may be random, the selection process is not. ”

Again, NS is wholly dependent upon 100% random mutations. Are you still denying this and calling me crazy? That’s rich
NS can only keep traits caused by 100% randomness and I know “evolution “ occurs over time
But tell me you find it normal happenstance
That a perfect set of owls eyes will appear?
I keep bringing this up because I want to know the logistics of how you fall for this crazy lucky coincidences.

If you're really interested in evolution of eyespots in butterflies, get some book about evolution. Like, here's what "The Princeton Guide to Evolution" says about it.

Artificial selection experiments have also been used to examine the flexibility of evolution in different directions of morphospace for two wing eyespots in this species of butterfly. Each eyespot pattern element consists of concentric rings of epithelial cells containing different-colored pigments. They are often arranged in an anterior to posterior column along the wing margins, and may then function in misdirecting the attacks of predators hunting by sight, away from the vulnerable body. A series of eyespots on the same wing surface behave as a module in which each eyespot is based on a central signal-diffusion system (or “organizer”) during development, and they all express the same set of genes during pattern determination. Thus, the eyespots represent a set of repeated elements exhibiting strongly positive genetic correlations for both eyespot size and color composition such that selection targeting either
trait for a specific eyespot in B. anynana yields corre-
sponding responses in the other eyespots (note that the
two eyespot traits show little, if any, genetic covariance).
A series of artificial selection experiments performed by
Patrı´cia Beldade examined whether repeated eyespots
can evolve independently. By simultaneously targeting
two different eyespots on the same wing, the experi-
ments explored the extent to which the pattern of eye-
spots, in terms of relative size or color composition, is
flexible in evolutionary terms; for example, with respect
to size, can two different eyespots be selected to both
either increase or decrease in size, and also for one to
become larger and the other smaller? A high flexibility in
the evolution of extreme, novel forms toward all four
corners of theoretical morphospace for this pattern was
observed for the pattern of relative eyespot size over 25 generations of selection. This result is consistent with
neither intrinsic constraints nor any strong bias in po-
tential responses to natural selection. This flexibility
of response in this experimental system appears to be
reflected in a full exploration of morphospace for the
same pattern when variation in the species-rich tribe of
butterflies is considered. In contrast, experiments on
eyespot color yielded very little response and no novel
phenotypes when two eyespots were selected in oppos-
ing directions. The different responses of the two traits
may be traceable to mechanisms of developmental reg-
ulation; whereas the size of each eyespot depends on the strength of the organizing “signaling” source at its
center, the regulation of eyespot color involves threshold responses to the signals and occurs at the level of the whole wing epidermis.

[GUBU]

You'd be better off buying something likely to get made.

Lol, I know right!

But, in all seriousness, it'll be made. It's simply going to be probably years later than it's being promised... which is what, end of this year, supposedly, right? With the high-end models projected being finished by like 2024 I think...? Don't quote me on that. To lazy to search DuckDuckGo 'cuz I don't really care enough. But, Musk is notorious for fulfilling his promises; he's also notorious for being way fucking late on fulfilling those promises.

It's not a matter of if the CyberTruk will be made and released to the public, it's a matter of when it will be made and released. And I don't think we'll see it for some years to come.

Lol did you not like the thing? It's weird as fuck, admittedly.

My guess is that the first one will roll off the production lines about a year after the traditional car makers (with their ability to make cars properly) muscle Tesla out of it's market share (which is happening already because of Musk's inability to actually run a company without creaming money off the top, even before the traditional car makers are getting serious about EVs, Tesla's had half of its Californian orders cancelled, the one market where it actually has a market so far), so somewhere between a week and a month before liquidation.

[The Architect Of Fate]

So he's still just insisting NS selection is random chance and throwing around incredulity ....BIG SURPRISE 

By the way has he bothered to explain how god did it?

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So someone here quoted
“The mutations may be random, the selection process is not. ”

Again, NS is wholly dependent upon 100% random mutations. Are you still denying this and calling me crazy? That’s rich
NS can only keep traits caused by 100% randomness and I know “evolution “ occurs over time
But tell me you find it normal happenstance
That a perfect set of owls eyes will appear?
I keep bringing this up because I want to know the logistics of how you fall for this crazy lucky coincidences.

If you're really interested in evolution of eyespots in butterflies, get some book about evolution. Like, here's what "The Princeton Guide to Evolution" says about it.

Artificial selection experiments have also been used to examine the flexibility of evolution in different directions of morphospace for two wing eyespots in this species of butterfly. Each eyespot pattern element consists of concentric rings of epithelial cells containing different-colored pigments. They are often arranged in an anterior to posterior column along the wing margins, and may then function in misdirecting the attacks of predators hunting by sight, away from the vulnerable body. A series of eyespots on the same wing surface behave as a module in which each eyespot is based on a central signal-diffusion system (or “organizer”) during development, and they all express the same set of genes during pattern determination. Thus, the eyespots represent a set of repeated elements exhibiting strongly positive genetic correlations for both eyespot size and color composition such that selection targeting either
trait for a specific eyespot in B. anynana yields corre-
sponding responses in the other eyespots (note that the
two eyespot traits show little, if any, genetic covariance).
A series of artificial selection experiments performed by
Patrı´cia Beldade examined whether repeated eyespots
can evolve independently. By simultaneously targeting
two different eyespots on the same wing, the experi-
ments explored the extent to which the pattern of eye-
spots, in terms of relative size or color composition, is
flexible in evolutionary terms; for example, with respect
to size, can two different eyespots be selected to both
either increase or decrease in size, and also for one to
become larger and the other smaller? A high flexibility in
the evolution of extreme, novel forms toward all four
corners of theoretical morphospace for this pattern was
observed for the pattern of relative eyespot size over 25 generations of selection. This result is consistent with
neither intrinsic constraints nor any strong bias in po-
tential responses to natural selection. This flexibility
of response in this experimental system appears to be
reflected in a full exploration of morphospace for the
same pattern when variation in the species-rich tribe of
butterflies is considered. In contrast, experiments on
eyespot color yielded very little response and no novel
phenotypes when two eyespots were selected in oppos-
ing directions. The different responses of the two traits
may be traceable to mechanisms of developmental reg-
ulation; whereas the size of each eyespot depends on the strength of the organizing “signaling” source at its
center, the regulation of eyespot color involves threshold responses to the signals and occurs at the level of the whole wing epidermis.

It doesn't matter he will keep screaming NS is random and raving that because he thinks it unlikely it is.

That's actually what's rich

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So someone here quoted
“The mutations may be random, the selection process is not. ”

Again, NS is wholly dependent upon 100% random mutations. Are you still denying this and calling me crazy? That’s rich
NS can only keep traits caused by 100% randomness and I know “evolution “ occurs over time
But tell me you find it normal happenstance
That a perfect set of owls eyes will appear?
I keep bringing this up because I want to know the logistics of how you fall for this crazy lucky coincidences.

How do you fall for this intelligent design crazyness?  Who designed this designer of yours?

Because the religious like simplistic answers and insist reality must bend to their credulity

[Abaddon_ire]

So someone here quoted
“The mutations may be random, the selection process is not. ”

Again, NS is wholly dependent upon 100% random mutations. Are you still denying this and calling me crazy? That’s rich
NS can only keep traits caused by 100% randomness and I know “evolution “ occurs over time
But tell me you find it normal happenstance
That a perfect set of owls eyes will appear?
I keep bringing this up because I want to know the logistics of how you fall for this crazy lucky coincidences.

If you toss an honest coin 1,000 times, you will average 500 heads and 500 tails, right?

[The Architect Of Fate]

So someone here quoted
“The mutations may be random, the selection process is not. ”

Again, NS is wholly dependent upon 100% random mutations. Are you still denying this and calling me crazy? That’s rich
NS can only keep traits caused by 100% randomness and I know “evolution “ occurs over time
But tell me you find it normal happenstance
That a perfect set of owls eyes will appear?
I keep bringing this up because I want to know the logistics of how you fall for this crazy lucky coincidences.

If you're really interested in evolution of eyespots in butterflies, get some book about evolution. Like, here's what "The Princeton Guide to Evolution" says about it.

Artificial selection experiments have also been used to examine the flexibility of evolution in different directions of morphospace for two wing eyespots in this species of butterfly. Each eyespot pattern element consists of concentric rings of epithelial cells containing different-colored pigments. They are often arranged in an anterior to posterior column along the wing margins, and may then function in misdirecting the attacks of predators hunting by sight, away from the vulnerable body. A series of eyespots on the same wing surface behave as a module in which each eyespot is based on a central signal-diffusion system (or “organizer”) during development, and they all express the same set of genes during pattern determination. Thus, the eyespots represent a set of repeated elements exhibiting strongly positive genetic correlations for both eyespot size and color composition such that selection targeting either
trait for a specific eyespot in B. anynana yields corre-
sponding responses in the other eyespots (note that the
two eyespot traits show little, if any, genetic covariance).
A series of artificial selection experiments performed by
Patrı´cia Beldade examined whether repeated eyespots
can evolve independently. By simultaneously targeting
two different eyespots on the same wing, the experi-
ments explored the extent to which the pattern of eye-
spots, in terms of relative size or color composition, is
flexible in evolutionary terms; for example, with respect
to size, can two different eyespots be selected to both
either increase or decrease in size, and also for one to
become larger and the other smaller? A high flexibility in
the evolution of extreme, novel forms toward all four
corners of theoretical morphospace for this pattern was
observed for the pattern of relative eyespot size over 25 generations of selection. This result is consistent with
neither intrinsic constraints nor any strong bias in po-
tential responses to natural selection. This flexibility
of response in this experimental system appears to be
reflected in a full exploration of morphospace for the
same pattern when variation in the species-rich tribe of
butterflies is considered. In contrast, experiments on
eyespot color yielded very little response and no novel
phenotypes when two eyespots were selected in oppos-
ing directions. The different responses of the two traits
may be traceable to mechanisms of developmental reg-
ulation; whereas the size of each eyespot depends on the strength of the organizing “signaling” source at its
center, the regulation of eyespot color involves threshold responses to the signals and occurs at the level of the whole wing epidermis.

By the way he will just whine that the eye spots were not "created " whole cloth or whine the experiment was designed and then harp on about random mutations and personal credulity

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So someone here quoted
“The mutations may be random, the selection process is not. ”

Again, NS is wholly dependent upon 100% random mutations. Are you still denying this and calling me crazy? That’s rich
NS can only keep traits caused by 100% randomness and I know “evolution “ occurs over time
But tell me you find it normal happenstance
That a perfect set of owls eyes will appear?
I keep bringing this up because I want to know the logistics of how you fall for this crazy lucky coincidences.

If you toss an honest coin 1,000 times, you will average 500 heads and 500 tails, right?

Oh he will just whine that eye spots unlike heads or tails doesn't have to happen .Because he says so.

Of course his claims are crazy

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By the way i can't wait for jacks nobel prize for all those silly scientists the superiority of his personnel credulity

[The Architect Of Fate]

[The Architect Of Fate]

So someone here quoted
“The mutations may be random, the selection process is not. ”

Again, NS is wholly dependent upon 100% random mutations. Are you still denying this and calling me crazy? That’s rich
NS can only keep traits caused by 100% randomness and I know “evolution “ occurs over time
But tell me you find it normal happenstance
That a perfect set of owls eyes will appear?
I keep bringing this up because I want to know the logistics of how you fall for this crazy lucky coincidences.

If you're really interested in evolution of eyespots in butterflies, get some book about evolution. Like, here's what "The Princeton Guide to Evolution" says about it.

Artificial selection experiments have also been used to examine the flexibility of evolution in different directions of morphospace for two wing eyespots in this species of butterfly. Each eyespot pattern element consists of concentric rings of epithelial cells containing different-colored pigments. They are often arranged in an anterior to posterior column along the wing margins, and may then function in misdirecting the attacks of predators hunting by sight, away from the vulnerable body. A series of eyespots on the same wing surface behave as a module in which each eyespot is based on a central signal-diffusion system (or “organizer”) during development, and they all express the same set of genes during pattern determination. Thus, the eyespots represent a set of repeated elements exhibiting strongly positive genetic correlations for both eyespot size and color composition such that selection targeting either
trait for a specific eyespot in B. anynana yields corre-
sponding responses in the other eyespots (note that the
two eyespot traits show little, if any, genetic covariance).
A series of artificial selection experiments performed by
Patrı´cia Beldade examined whether repeated eyespots
can evolve independently. By simultaneously targeting
two different eyespots on the same wing, the experi-
ments explored the extent to which the pattern of eye-
spots, in terms of relative size or color composition, is
flexible in evolutionary terms; for example, with respect
to size, can two different eyespots be selected to both
either increase or decrease in size, and also for one to
become larger and the other smaller? A high flexibility in
the evolution of extreme, novel forms toward all four
corners of theoretical morphospace for this pattern was
observed for the pattern of relative eyespot size over 25 generations of selection. This result is consistent with
neither intrinsic constraints nor any strong bias in po-
tential responses to natural selection. This flexibility
of response in this experimental system appears to be
reflected in a full exploration of morphospace for the
same pattern when variation in the species-rich tribe of
butterflies is considered. In contrast, experiments on
eyespot color yielded very little response and no novel
phenotypes when two eyespots were selected in oppos-
ing directions. The different responses of the two traits
may be traceable to mechanisms of developmental reg-
ulation; whereas the size of each eyespot depends on the strength of the organizing “signaling” source at its
center, the regulation of eyespot color involves threshold responses to the signals and occurs at the level of the whole wing epidermis.

But what do all those biologists know 

Jackoffs opinions (or the ones feed to him by ID propagandists ) are clearly superior which is why ID has replaced evolut....Oh wait

[The Architect Of Fate]

So someone here quoted
“The mutations may be random, the selection process is not. ”

He's half right

Again, NS is wholly dependent upon 100% random mutations. Are you still denying this and calling me crazy? That’s rich

Nope no matter how much you repeat this it's false.And the only denialist here is you .You are equal to a flat earther ,And calling you crazy insults th mentally ill.

NS can only keep traits caused by 100% randomness and I know “evolution “ occurs over time

False 

But tell me you find it normal happenstance.That a perfect set of owls eyes will appear?

Yes yes we know reality frustrates you .Which is why you prefer GOD DID IT . 

I keep bringing this up because I want to know the logistics of how you fall for this crazy lucky coincidences.

No you bring it up because you got nothing .Because you lashed your horse to a nutter fringe theory that has accomplished nothing and mainstream science has reject