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Real Men
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Susan: 'A real woman could stop you from drinking.'
Arthur: 'Have to be a real big woman.' - from the film Arthur Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
 (January 21, 2020 at 10:54 am)onlinebiker Wrote:(January 21, 2020 at 10:51 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: What traits or characteristics disqualify a person from being a man? But so many of our ideas of heroes, mentors and ideals are conceptual and not physical. I think a real man is partly like my father. I filter out the bad he does and just have a shiny example of the best in him. We all do this all the time. I was just trying to nail down some of those shiny examples, but clearly your standards of having to have had breath is as far as you're willing to go.
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post
always working on cleaning my windows- me regarding Johari (January 21, 2020 at 10:51 am)tackattack Wrote: Here I was wanting to have an aside on what men identify as manly and OLB sets the trap and Gae takes the religion shot.Just trying to stay on-topic, lol. I go with the "whatever I do" theory of manliness in my day to day life.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
 (January 21, 2020 at 11:10 am)Gae Bolga Wrote:(January 21, 2020 at 10:51 am)tackattack Wrote: Here I was wanting to have an aside on what men identify as manly and OLB sets the trap and Gae takes the religion shot.Just trying to stay on-topic, lol. I understand that you're a fine specimen, but what specifically do you do that makes you the real deal. Do you sacrifice for your family? work hard? I'm certain you do, but are they qualifiers for real man status?
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post
always working on cleaning my windows- me regarding Johari 
I don’t understood where he’s going with this then.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Wiser words were never spoken.  (January 21, 2020 at 9:53 am)onlinebiker Wrote: Who are real men? Charles Bronson was a real actor. John Wayne was a real actor. Rock Hudson was a real actor. That may be your hyper masculine idea of how men should behave, but it isn't reality. They are products of Hollywood. The greatest hero I ever had in my life was my mom. And she did far more for society as a lifetime teacher than those actors. (January 21, 2020 at 11:13 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: I don’t understood where he’s going with this then. Do you have a grasp on reality - that which occupies physical space? A real man is just that. Real. Unlike Leprechauns, fire breathing dragons, zombies or the invisible man who lives in the sky or his bastard offspring. RE: Real Men
January 21, 2020 at 11:18 am
(This post was last modified: January 21, 2020 at 11:20 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(January 21, 2020 at 11:13 am)tackattack Wrote:(January 21, 2020 at 11:10 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: Just trying to stay on-topic, lol. The beauty of the whatever I do theory is it's complete lack of specificity. If I sacrificed for family, it would be manly. If I didn't, it would be manly. If I was knuckle deep in some hot man on man...it would be manly. I think that you're asking about (and describing) a curated role model, not manliness™ in the sense of a brute fact of being. Some men are certainly better people than some other men. We could call them better men...but that probably doesn't have anything to do with their man-ness. That's not the part that's better or worse. All of us are level on the swinging richard routine.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
(January 21, 2020 at 11:17 am)onlinebiker Wrote:(January 21, 2020 at 11:13 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: I don’t understood where he’s going with this then. I have a grasp on reality. I don’t have a grasp on whatever point you’re trying to make with this thread.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
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