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Trade route from the Varangians to the Greeks
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Trade route from the Varangians to the Greeks
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trade_rout...the_Greeks

Ukraine adopted a constitution with a course on the European Union and NATO. This is the way from the Varangians to the Greeks through Poland and the Baltic states. This is the north. Also west. Through Poland to Germany, Belgium and England.
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RE: Trade route from the Varangians to the Greeks
I actually googled that to see if the internet had any clue wtf you're talking about..because I wanted to believe that there was a sentient human consciousness behind the post.

Turns out it doesn't, and I can't say for sure that there is.

Could you flesh that out a bit? Shot in the dark, are you suggesting that ukraine has officially pronounced something to the effect of affirming their european identity by way of historic interaction, as opposed to..say, a russian identity? That's the best I've got.
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RE: Trade route from the Varangians to the Greeks
(January 22, 2020 at 12:46 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: I actually googled that to see if the internet had any clue wtf you're talking about..because I wanted to believe that there was a sentient human consciousness behind the post.

Turns out it doesn't, and I can't say for sure that there is.  

Could you flesh that out a bit?  Shot in the dark, are you suggesting that ukraine has officially pronounced something to the effect of affirming their european identity by way of historic interaction, as opposed to..say, a russian identity?  That's the best I've got.

stupid Russians. I have a Russian mother, but I know the history of Ukraine and therefore, I chose Ukrainian and European identity
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RE: Trade route from the Varangians to the Greeks
OMFG, did I nail it!
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Trade route from the Varangians to the Greeks
I dunno what's going on.
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#6
RE: Trade route from the Varangians to the Greeks
Ukrainian trying to distance Ukraine from the Rus. (Spartacus was a Sarmatian.)
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#7
RE: Trade route from the Varangians to the Greeks
If your mother was russian then you're more russian than I am irish.

Still, I feel ya. You're a ukrainian. I'm an american. That doesn't change the facts of our country or culture's construction - and no pronouncement from the ministry of truth can touch that.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Trade route from the Varangians to the Greeks
(January 22, 2020 at 1:20 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Ukrainian trying to distance Ukraine from the Rus. (Spartacus was a Sarmatian.)

He was Thracian. Which is Bulgaria now.

Spartacus (Greek: Σπάρτακος Spártakos; Latin: Spartacus; c. 111–71 BC) was a [b]Thracian gladiator[/b] who, along with the Gauls Crixus, Gannicus, Castus, and Oenomaus, was one of the escaped slave leaders in the Third Servile War, a major slave uprising against the Roman Republic. Aug 1 2019

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spartacus



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RE: Trade route from the Varangians to the Greeks
"Sarmatian" is a modifier a bit like "american". It denotes people from a broad geographic area (iran to ireland, no less) with disparate cultural origins which included the balkans at the time.

A person could be both thracian, as in from thrace..and sarmatian.

(or....sarmatian is a fiction of category, lol, 50/50)
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Trade route from the Varangians to the Greeks
Thrace was the far side of Dacia from the Sarmatian steppe. The 'generic' tribal term would have been 'Scythian' if he was of Sarmatian extraction.
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