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RE: The problem with "Holy Places".
February 26, 2020 at 1:59 pm
(February 26, 2020 at 7:07 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (February 26, 2020 at 2:25 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Do you ever visit holy places as a tourist? Like would you walk over 7,500 feet of stairs to visit these two Buddhist Temples in China?
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Well, I've climbed Croagh Patrick (kept me boots on, though).
Boru People used to do that on their knees, and still do it barefoot to this day.
Scary example of religious drivers. Not dissimilar to the crucifictions re-enacted in the Philippines.
The notion that suffering is a good thing is an entirely religious notion. And an immoral notion at that.
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RE: The problem with "Holy Places".
February 26, 2020 at 2:06 pm
(February 26, 2020 at 1:59 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: (February 26, 2020 at 7:07 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Well, I've climbed Croagh Patrick (kept me boots on, though).
Boru People used to do that on their knees, and still do it barefoot to this day.
Scary example of religious drivers. Not dissimilar to the crucifictions re-enacted in the Philippines.
The notion that suffering is a good thing is an entirely religious notion. And an immoral notion at that.
I have seen pilgrimages to Fatima here. Yep, people that could know better. But then I accept S&M, so I can't say anything against those that self inflict wounds for a prayer.
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RE: The problem with "Holy Places".
February 26, 2020 at 2:41 pm
(February 26, 2020 at 2:06 pm)LastPoet Wrote: (February 26, 2020 at 1:59 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: People used to do that on their knees, and still do it barefoot to this day.
Scary example of religious drivers. Not dissimilar to the crucifictions re-enacted in the Philippines.
The notion that suffering is a good thing is an entirely religious notion. And an immoral notion at that.
I have seen pilgrimages to Fatima here. Yep, people that could know better. But then I accept S&M, so I can't say anything against those that self inflict wounds for a prayer.
Sure. If S&M is what bakes one's noodle, I am OK so long as it is between consenting adults and no harm is done.
But there are not many S&M folks claiming that it is the only way to be saved and you all must do as I do, are there?
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RE: The problem with "Holy Places".
February 26, 2020 at 2:44 pm
(February 26, 2020 at 2:41 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: (February 26, 2020 at 2:06 pm)LastPoet Wrote: I have seen pilgrimages to Fatima here. Yep, people that could know better. But then I accept S&M, so I can't say anything against those that self inflict wounds for a prayer.
Sure. If S&M is what bakes one's noodle, I am OK so long as it is between consenting adults and no harm is done.
But there are not many S&M folks claiming that it is the only way to be saved and you all must do as I do, are there?
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RE: The problem with "Holy Places".
February 26, 2020 at 2:46 pm
(February 26, 2020 at 2:44 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (February 26, 2020 at 2:41 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Sure. If S&M is what bakes one's noodle, I am OK so long as it is between consenting adults and no harm is done.
But there are not many S&M folks claiming that it is the only way to be saved and you all must do as I do, are there?
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RE: The problem with "Holy Places".
February 26, 2020 at 7:16 pm
(February 26, 2020 at 2:44 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (February 26, 2020 at 2:41 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Sure. If S&M is what bakes one's noodle, I am OK so long as it is between consenting adults and no harm is done.
But there are not many S&M folks claiming that it is the only way to be saved and you all must do as I do, are there?
'TIE ME UP FOR JESUS!!'
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RE: The problem with "Holy Places".
March 8, 2020 at 4:57 am
(February 19, 2020 at 1:55 pm)Mr Greene Wrote: Under the Celts/Greeks/Romans/Vikings these would usually be dedicated to feminine spirits/goddesses.
Well, those may not exist, but they are a romantic idea! 
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RE: The problem with "Holy Places".
March 8, 2020 at 2:37 pm
(March 8, 2020 at 4:57 am)Dundee Wrote: (February 19, 2020 at 1:55 pm)Mr Greene Wrote: Under the Celts/Greeks/Romans/Vikings these would usually be dedicated to feminine spirits/goddesses.
Well, those may not exist, but they are a romantic idea!
When I am deer hunting - I sometimes amuse myself by praying to Diana....
Hey - a hot woman who is handy with a weapon - what's not to love?
Plus I've gotten at least 2 deer every year the last 18 years - and 5 a year several times.....
That's better results than that Jewish carpenter can deliver...
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RE: The problem with "Holy Places".
March 8, 2020 at 3:16 pm
A "holy" place is no different from any other kind of place, in reality. The only difference is what value people place on a location, thought, value, or idea. My issue with this is that we can convince ourselves that a religion, or certain set of ideas, is above criticism because people find it to be very important to them... and the issue with that is certain ideologies cause a lot of harm in our society. A harmful ideology combined with the concept that said ideology is above criticism creates a recipe for disaster, obviously. That is why some of us rail against religion so hard, because it is legitimately harmful to a lot of people in our world, so why shouldn't we be able to criticize it?
When the religious respond with, "Most people in X, Y, or Z religion are moderate believers who mind their own business," okay, great. That's not the type of religion that any of us are criticizing.
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