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RE: Official live update of spread of COVID19
April 5, 2020 at 9:57 pm
(April 5, 2020 at 9:02 pm)Agnostico Wrote: In Australia it is time to start thinking about lifting the ban on some areas and industries
Our government says that we are going into a 6 month hibernation but that will destroy more lives than C19 will
It is mainly the sick elderly that die from this, people that won't live another 5 years
Meanwhile this generation will be paying of the rest of their lives, long after all the baby boomers have gone
They won't be able to afford a home or even save money for a holiday. It will basically be like slavery
Do the boomers understand this sacrifice people are making for them to live a few more years?
Do they understand the slavery which we all will spend the rest of our lives in for them to live a few more years?
Do they understand the amount of young people who will never have any liberty or freedom in their lives cos of them?
Do they understand that more people will have their lives destroyed cos of the sacrifice being made for them?
Do the boomers even appreciate the extreme measures that society has taken to give them a few more years in this world?
All I see and hear are boomers demanding this and that. Telling people to stay at home
They don't seem to have any empathy for people who will end up homeless cos of this
They don't seem to be at all concerned about the suffering that people will have to endure for them
They don't seem to care what happens to society after they are gone
You can fuck right off!
You understand that while those sacrificial old people are dying, hospitals will be trying to save them and that will snowball into so many more incidental deaths.
You are a fucking moron!
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RE: Official live update of spread of COVID19
April 5, 2020 at 10:02 pm
(April 5, 2020 at 9:45 pm)Fireball Wrote: (April 5, 2020 at 9:38 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Do YOU understand that it's not just the elderly who are getting sick and dying?
Do YOU understand that young people, as well as those with compromised immune systems (like myself) are also at risk and dying?
Ask yourself if, in the future in another pandemic, you're willing to just lie down and die if you get sick? If you answer "yes", you're delusional and will likely think differently when you're in the hotseat.
We can all be fucking heroes when it's other peoples' lives.
As someone in my mid thirties I would just like to whole heartedly agree with Arewethereyet's response.
Sometimes I'm ashamed to be an Aussie.
No shame for you, or Arewethereyet, either. The world is just full of shitty people, no matter the continent.
This attitude just pisses me off. How long before "they're no benefit to society, let them die" becomes "they're a drain on society, let's get rid of them"?
Agnos forgets that these are people who likely worked hard their entire lives. But hey, what the fuck, what are they doing for us NOW?
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RE: Official live update of spread of COVID19
April 5, 2020 at 10:07 pm
Plenty of people think that only the "useless" will be struck down by the disease.
Meanwhile I look at the death reports and I see that people of all ages make an appearance, skewed obviously towards the elderly but not exclusively.
I don't want to be one of those 30 year olds killed by Covid-19. I don't want to die. Why should people die for the magic stock line?
If the economy is so important, why wasn't there protective measures installed before this? Letting people die seems like rewarding that bad behavior of "gains at all costs"
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RE: Official live update of spread of COVID19
April 5, 2020 at 10:11 pm
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(April 5, 2020 at 10:02 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: (April 5, 2020 at 9:45 pm)Fireball Wrote: No shame for you, or Arewethereyet, either. The world is just full of shitty people, no matter the continent.
This attitude just pisses me off. How long before "they're no benefit to society, let them die" becomes "they're a drain on society, let's get rid of them"?
Agnos forgets that these are people who likely worked hard their entire lives. But hey, what the fuck, what are they doing for us NOW?
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(S)he also seems to forget that if it weren't for Boomers (s)he wouldn't even be here.
The best part of agnositco ran down his/her mother's thighs.
Talk about lack of empathy...pfft.
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RE: Official live update of spread of COVID19
April 5, 2020 at 11:33 pm
(This post was last modified: April 5, 2020 at 11:50 pm by Rev. Rye.)
(April 5, 2020 at 10:07 pm)Autumnlicious Wrote: Plenty of people think that only the "useless" will be struck down by the disease.
Meanwhile I look at the death reports and I see that people of all ages make an appearance, skewed obviously towards the elderly but not exclusively.
I don't want to be one of those 30 year olds killed by Covid-19. I don't want to die. Why should people die for the magic stock line?
If the economy is so important, why wasn't there protective measures installed before this? Letting people die seems like rewarding that bad behavior of "gains at all costs"
One other point that I keep hearing the news that Agnos disregards and that nobody else seems to have mentioned: If left unchecked, COVID will overrun our hospitals, but just because a pandemic is happening doesn't mean that the other diseases that kill people, shit like heart disease, cancer, strokes, diabetes, accidental poisonings, major injuries, will go on hold. The hospitals get overrun with COVID, NOBODY ELSE can get help. And if you think those diseases are just Boomer problems, you're fucking delusional:
And bear in mind, this isn't just a worse-case scenario. In some parts of the world, New York in particular, that's actually happening.
And, of course, as mentioned before, Boomers aren't even the only people to die from the virus. Case in point: this healthy, 30-year old gym teacher recently died of COVID.
You know who else is 30? Me.
I understand that, on some level, people in power's idea of right and wrong tend to be self-serving, but this isn't just about boomers demanding a temporary reprieve from the inevitable like Spiderman desperately seeking a resurrection for his elderly Aunt May in One More Day. This is about public health for EVERYBODY. If you can look at all that and not at least see why trying to slow the spread is a good idea, well, I don't think anything short of hacking into your brain and changing its Operating System can help you.
(April 5, 2020 at 9:42 pm)Mr Greene Wrote: ...And then there are batshit nutters like this...
Seriously 3-6 months, yes it's tough but we're all going through it.
(Why do we have to repeat this at this stage???)
I think your first line answered your third.
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RE: Official live update of spread of COVID19
April 6, 2020 at 12:05 am
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Quote:In Australia it is time to start thinking about lifting the ban on some areas and industries
Our government says that we are going into a 6 month hibernation but that will destroy more lives than C19 will
It is mainly the sick elderly that die from this, people that won't live another 5 years
Meanwhile this generation will be paying of the rest of their lives, long after all the baby boomers have gone
They won't be able to afford a home or even save money for a holiday. It will basically be like slavery
Do the boomers understand this sacrifice people are making for them to live a few more years?
Do they understand the slavery which we all will spend the rest of our lives in for them to live a few more years?
Do they understand the amount of young people who will never have any liberty or freedom in their lives cos of them?
Do they understand that more people will have their lives destroyed cos of the sacrifice being made for them?
Do the boomers even appreciate the extreme measures that society has taken to give them a few more years in this world?
All I see and hear are boomers demanding this and that. Telling people to stay at home
They don't seem to have any empathy for people who will end up homeless cos of this
They don't seem to be at all concerned about the suffering that people will have to endure for them
They don't seem to care what happens to society after they are gone
You are a horrible person and should be ashamed of this comment
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RE: Official live update of spread of COVID19
April 6, 2020 at 12:25 am
It looks like they've decided to re-upload the stream on YouTube, so I no longer have to worry about trying to get Twitch videos to embed.
At the moment, it's stuck at March 7 at 10:38:34 AM UTC, but it will go back and live at 6 AM Central Time (in about 6 1/2 hours)
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RE: Official live update of spread of COVID19
April 6, 2020 at 1:20 am
(April 5, 2020 at 9:02 pm)Agnostico Wrote: In Australia it is time to start thinking about lifting the ban on some areas and industries
Our government says that we are going into a 6 month hibernation but that will destroy more lives than C19 will
It is mainly the sick elderly that die from this, people that won't live another 5 years
Meanwhile this generation will be paying of the rest of their lives, long after all the baby boomers have gone
They won't be able to afford a home or even save money for a holiday. It will basically be like slavery
Do the boomers understand this sacrifice people are making for them to live a few more years?
Do they understand the slavery which we all will spend the rest of our lives in for them to live a few more years?
Do they understand the amount of young people who will never have any liberty or freedom in their lives cos of them?
Do they understand that more people will have their lives destroyed cos of the sacrifice being made for them?
Do the boomers even appreciate the extreme measures that society has taken to give them a few more years in this world?
All I see and hear are boomers demanding this and that. Telling people to stay at home
They don't seem to have any empathy for people who will end up homeless cos of this
They don't seem to be at all concerned about the suffering that people will have to endure for them
They don't seem to care what happens to society after they are gone
Nice christian values you display here
Cetero censeo religionem delendam esse
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RE: Official live update of spread of COVID19
April 6, 2020 at 1:23 am
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(April 6, 2020 at 1:20 am)Deesse23 Wrote: Nice christian values you display here
I think when he says "Christian Values," he means "he is a creature from the id who values his own selfish desires over the greater good"
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RE: Official live update of spread of COVID19
April 6, 2020 at 2:16 am
I'm not the only person here that feels that way, it's an opinion that is becoming more popular by the day as the links below show
Australia has had only 39 deaths from C19, that's less than 0.7% fatality rate
You people don't even know this and without offering any suggestions or addressing anything i said a lot of you just resorted to ad hominems.
Yet the government says this lock down will continue for 6 months
Outside of the cities there is hardly no C19 cases, in fact large sections of rural Australia have remained unaffected by C19. Why should these country towns make such great sacrifices? Loose their jobs, businesses, lively hoods and become homeless for what?
Why should everyone be in lock down when it's only the sick/elderly that need to be locked down?
Why must people become homeless for not being able to pay rent when it's the sick/elderly that need to be taking precautions
And yes i know there are some rare cases of younger people dying
So while it's easy for people to empathize with what they are seeing now with C19, there aren't many people that understand what is about to happen after this. People seem to think that everything will go back to how it was, that no one will be effected by all this. There will be more deaths in the aftermath than with C19 in Australia, real tragic deaths to young people who never even got a chance in this life
I don't want anyone to die but we have a situation where death is inevitable and so need to make triage based decisions
Ending the lives of tens of thousands of young people to save the lives of 40 old people is a ludicrous proposition.
Taiwan has the same population as here and is next to China yet they handled the situation without closing down anything. They've taken measures that the west hasn't even considered
As for the boomers im yet to see any of them show any level of appreciation for people making such sacrifices
I do however see many of them whining and moaning about this and that
I challenge anyone to show me an example of such appreciation being shown by boomers
People who haven't considered this view that many of us Aussies have are being very narrow minded as this is an unprecedented event that has no correct course of action and so all options need to be considered
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RAJ3cwKyhc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWNpltWv2_M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gww3J7D8pj0
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