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The brazen bull in the Quran?
#31
RE: The brazen bull in the Quran?
(March 6, 2020 at 10:20 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:
(March 6, 2020 at 9:43 pm)WinterHold Wrote: But this comes in:

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2016...-sacrifice


It's hard to oust the possibility of an ancient heathen society being engaged in human sacrifice.

There's this link also:

https://www.newsweek.com/ancient-greece-...ice-755549

Ancient Greece: "Shocking" Dismembered Human Skull Reveals Long-Debated Ritual Sacrifice of Virgins
How can you tell a skull belonged to a virgin?

I think you can guess from the age of the victim.
Bones tell a lot about the age of the body; a 14 years old girl in that era will mostly be a virgin, but that's only a personal guess.

(March 7, 2020 at 4:27 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(March 6, 2020 at 9:43 pm)WinterHold Wrote: But this comes in:

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2016...-sacrifice


It's hard to oust the possibility of an ancient heathen society being engaged in human sacrifice.

There's this link also:

https://www.newsweek.com/ancient-greece-...ice-755549

Ancient Greece: "Shocking" Dismembered Human Skull Reveals Long-Debated Ritual Sacrifice of Virgins

I didn't say the Greeks didn't engage in human sacrifice.  I said their sacrifices took place on an altar, not inside a bronze bull.  Read your article.

Boru

If the bull represents a certain deity, then a special sacrifice can be guessed: that's why I think the Quran focused on the "lowing sound" the calf made. It seems perfect to build such a symbol for a deity that makes a sound during sacrifices.

The "lowing sound" is a direct pointer to the calf being hollow from the inside, when you stuff people inside and ignite it, they burn and the lowing sound is made.
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#32
RE: The brazen bull in the Quran?
(March 7, 2020 at 6:49 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(March 6, 2020 at 10:20 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: How can you tell a skull belonged to a virgin?

I think you can guess from the age of the victim.
Bones tell a lot about the age of the body; a 14 years old girl in that era will mostly be a virgin, but that's only a personal guess.

(March 7, 2020 at 4:27 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I didn't say the Greeks didn't engage in human sacrifice.  I said their sacrifices took place on an altar, not inside a bronze bull.  Read your article.

Boru

If the bull represents a certain deity, then a special sacrifice can be guessed: that's why I think the Quran focused on the "lowing sound" the calf made. It seems perfect to build such a symbol for a deity that makes a sound during sacrifices.

The "lowing sound" is a direct pointer to the calf being hollow from the inside, when you stuff people inside and ignite it, they burn and the lowing sound is made.

The age of the victim isn't an indication of virginity or lack thereof?  Nine year old brides ring any bells with you?

How in hell do you know what sound is made when burn someone inside something else?  Is this a hobby of yours?
  
“If you are the smartest person in the room, then you are in the wrong room.” — Confucius
                                      
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#33
RE: The brazen bull in the Quran?
(March 7, 2020 at 6:49 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(March 6, 2020 at 10:20 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: How can you tell a skull belonged to a virgin?

I think you can guess from the age of the victim.
Bones tell a lot about the age of the body; a 14 years old girl in that era will mostly be a virgin, but that's only a personal guess.

(March 7, 2020 at 4:27 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I didn't say the Greeks didn't engage in human sacrifice.  I said their sacrifices took place on an altar, not inside a bronze bull.  Read your article.

Boru

If the bull represents a certain deity, then a special sacrifice can be guessed: that's why I think the Quran focused on the "lowing sound" the calf made. It seems perfect to build such a symbol for a deity that makes a sound during sacrifices.

The "lowing sound" is a direct pointer to the calf being hollow from the inside, when you stuff people inside and ignite it, they burn and the lowing sound is made.

You’re confusing the calf with the bull.

According to the original story, the calf was solid - it couldn’t have been otherwise. The embellishments made centuries later by the illiterate Mohammed are of no moment (in other words, Mohammed got the story wrong).

In any case, there is no record of the Israelites burning their offerings on anything other than an open altar. Levitical law is very specific about this.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#34
RE: The brazen bull in the Quran?
(March 7, 2020 at 7:01 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:
(March 7, 2020 at 6:49 pm)WinterHold Wrote: I think you can guess from the age of the victim.
Bones tell a lot about the age of the body; a 14 years old girl in that era will mostly be a virgin, but that's only a personal guess.


If the bull represents a certain deity, then a special sacrifice can be guessed: that's why I think the Quran focused on the "lowing sound" the calf made. It seems perfect to build such a symbol for a deity that makes a sound during sacrifices.

The "lowing sound" is a direct pointer to the calf being hollow from the inside, when you stuff people inside and ignite it, they burn and the lowing sound is made.

The age of the victim isn't an indication of virginity or lack thereof.  Nine year old brides ring any bells with you?

How in hell do you know what sound is made when burn someone inside something else?  Is this a hobby of yours?

Oh, the 9 years old Aisha thing again, but we're discussing the "Brazen bull in the Quran?"; not the implicit pointer to Arabic ancient tales that justifies pedophilia by using Islam as a Trojan horse.

I can guess how the sound of a burning person inside a small space with acoustic apparatus to mimic a lowing sound of a real bull; so heathens would believe that their deity is talking to them.
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#35
RE: The brazen bull in the Quran?
(March 7, 2020 at 7:10 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(March 7, 2020 at 7:01 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: The age of the victim isn't an indication of virginity or lack thereof.  Nine year old brides ring any bells with you?

How in hell do you know what sound is made when burn someone inside something else?  Is this a hobby of yours?

Oh, the 9 years old Aisha thing again, but we're discussing the "Brazen bull in the Quran?"; not the implicit pointer to Arabic ancient tales that justifies pedophilia by using Islam as a Trojan horse.

I can guess how the sound of a burning person inside a small space with acoustic apparatus to mimic a lowing sound of a real bull; so heathens would believe that their deity is talking to them.

Ok, done with this. You clearly don’t know the difference between a calf and a bull, the difference between torture and sacrifice, you don’t give two shits for the historical method, your reading comprehension is abysmal, and you won’t listen to facts.

Enjoy your masturbatory fantasies about burning people alive.

Boru
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#36
RE: The brazen bull in the Quran?
(March 7, 2020 at 7:10 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(March 7, 2020 at 7:01 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: The age of the victim isn't an indication of virginity or lack thereof.  Nine year old brides ring any bells with you?

How in hell do you know what sound is made when burn someone inside something else?  Is this a hobby of yours?

Oh, the 9 years old Aisha thing again, but we're discussing the "Brazen bull in the Quran?"; not the implicit pointer to Arabic ancient tales that justifies pedophilia by using Islam as a Trojan horse.

I can guess how the sound of a burning person inside a small space with acoustic apparatus to mimic a lowing sound of a real bull; so heathens would believe that their deity is talking to them.

Yeah - done with you.  You make one reasonable post for every 25 bullshit posts...and it's usually a picture of a cat.
  
“If you are the smartest person in the room, then you are in the wrong room.” — Confucius
                                      
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#37
RE: The brazen bull in the Quran?
Is this bull where all the bullshit comes from?
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#38
RE: The brazen bull in the Quran?
(March 7, 2020 at 7:07 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(March 7, 2020 at 6:49 pm)WinterHold Wrote: I think you can guess from the age of the victim.
Bones tell a lot about the age of the body; a 14 years old girl in that era will mostly be a virgin, but that's only a personal guess.


If the bull represents a certain deity, then a special sacrifice can be guessed: that's why I think the Quran focused on the "lowing sound" the calf made. It seems perfect to build such a symbol for a deity that makes a sound during sacrifices.

The "lowing sound" is a direct pointer to the calf being hollow from the inside, when you stuff people inside and ignite it, they burn and the lowing sound is made.

You’re confusing the calf with the bull.

According to the original story, the calf was solid - it couldn’t have been otherwise. The embellishments made centuries later by the illiterate Mohammed are of no moment (in other words, Mohammed got the story wrong).

In any case, there is no record of the Israelites burning their offerings on anything other than an open altar. Levitical law is very specific about this.

Boru

A calf is a baby; it can become "a bull" or "a cow".
I used the word "evolved"; the calf evolved into a bull to fit the sacrificing in my opinion.

We know that Greece already had the legend of the Minotaur:

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Minotaur

(March 7, 2020 at 7:15 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(March 7, 2020 at 7:10 pm)WinterHold Wrote: Oh, the 9 years old Aisha thing again, but we're discussing the "Brazen bull in the Quran?"; not the implicit pointer to Arabic ancient tales that justifies pedophilia by using Islam as a Trojan horse.

I can guess how the sound of a burning person inside a small space with acoustic apparatus to mimic a lowing sound of a real bull; so heathens would believe that their deity is talking to them.

Ok, done with this. You clearly don’t know the difference between a calf and a bull, the difference between torture and sacrifice, you don’t give two shits for the historical method, your reading comprehension is abysmal, and you won’t listen to facts.

Enjoy your masturbatory fantasies about burning people alive.

Boru

I pretty much know the difference:

Quote:A calf and a bull are not mutually exclusive. A calf is a baby bovine and can be a heifer (female) or a bull (male)

(March 7, 2020 at 7:25 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:
(March 7, 2020 at 7:10 pm)WinterHold Wrote: Oh, the 9 years old Aisha thing again, but we're discussing the "Brazen bull in the Quran?"; not the implicit pointer to Arabic ancient tales that justifies pedophilia by using Islam as a Trojan horse.

I can guess how the sound of a burning person inside a small space with acoustic apparatus to mimic a lowing sound of a real bull; so heathens would believe that their deity is talking to them.

Yeah - done with you.  You make one reasonable post for every 25 bullshit posts...and it's usually a picture of a cat.

Thank you, I post my cats for a reason, they are soothing for the eyes.
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