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War According To The Qur'an
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 (April 9, 2020 at 4:14 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: I hope there's red light flashing on somebody's panel right now. There's a "target acquired" message flashing on my panel right now. Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni: "You did WHAT? With WHO? WHERE???"  (April 9, 2020 at 8:06 am)KuranMumini19 Wrote: many in the Quran there are verses about war. What does it have to say on immunology? Space flight? Magnetoplasmadynamics? Perhaps if you stopped reading books of mythology and started thinking about your moral system you might be able to stop killing each other quite so much. 
People of faith seem to think we spend all day thinking about their religion of choice.
Personally I don't think anything about the Koran except that as it appeals to the supernatural it is wrong. The koran says "this and not the thing you think" they say. I think its got a flying horse in it and that's enough for me to call bullshit. You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid. Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.  RE: War According To The Qur'an
April 20, 2020 at 12:16 pm
(This post was last modified: April 20, 2020 at 12:17 pm by Fake Messiah.)
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
The religion of pieces.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
  RE: War According To The Qur'an
April 20, 2020 at 4:20 pm
(This post was last modified: April 20, 2020 at 4:21 pm by R00tKiT.)
(April 20, 2020 at 12:16 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Well, when it comes to Quran and war maybe we could discuss the use of Quran by notorious jihadis to wage war on non-muslims? In what sense Bin Laden can be called a jihadi? WTF are you talking about.. he is a senseless murderer, that's it. Why add the jihadi label. (April 20, 2020 at 12:16 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote:Quote:In God's book, he ordered us to fight you everywhere we find you, even if you were inside the holiest of all holy cities, The Mosque in Mecca, and the holy city of Mecca, and even during sacred months. These are all out of context quotes, it's like zooming on the picture of one dead soldier in a battle then claim all earth is filled with blood and corpses. The Qur'an only authorizes attacking first in the case of preemptive war, that is, if there is incontrovertible evidence an enemy attack is imminent. Also, the equivalent in Arabic of "fight" in the Qur'an is qatala', which literally means offensive action from both sides. Murdering innocents just doesn't exist anywhere in reliable literature. Other fact: any individual is explicitly forbidden to go to jihad if his parents don't allow him to. Now think about how many cases you heard of, about people fleeing their families to some ME country, thinking they are the most fervent Muslims.....  (April 20, 2020 at 4:20 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:(April 20, 2020 at 12:16 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Well, when it comes to Quran and war maybe we could discuss the use of Quran by notorious jihadis to wage war on non-muslims? Quote:I don't understand why you'd come to a discussion forum, and then proceed to reap from visibility any voice that disagrees with you. If you're going to do that, why not just sit in front of a mirror and pat yourself on the back continuously?-Esquilax Evolution - Adapt or be eaten.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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