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RE: Was Prophet Mohammed a caravan thieve?
April 17, 2020 at 6:42 am
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(April 16, 2020 at 11:24 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Do you think that it might be possible that something similar happened with "islam"?
Hell, you have a brain in your head...and so you reject these imperfections of humanity in your prophet - but people believed them without question for what..1400 years you say, and it didn't strike them as a problem? Was big mo a caravan thief? Yeah. So what, why is that a problem for you in a way that it hasn't been for other muslims for 1400 years...and is it really so absurd to think that people might have been conned..especially if your retconned version of big mo were true... and given the existence of christians? Hell...you said as much yourself with the tq fail. You do think that people get god and his prophets wrong. End of. Atheists think so too, in many more words.
This is why no one takes you or your beliefs seriously, muslim or atheist. You don't seem to take them seriously yourself.
When you have a book like the Quran written in a language full of rules, you can't get things the wrong way. I supply what I say with very clear verses from the book; there are no "versions" if you use the Quran only, versions exist because Hadith books exist.
About taking me seriously or not; that's your personal freedom to choose; and that's why I ignore people and talk my mind anyways.
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RE: Was Prophet Mohammed a caravan thieve?
April 17, 2020 at 7:17 am
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Apparently people can get things the wrong way. You think that this is exactly what happened. Again, I don't take you seriously, because you don't take yourself seriously.
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RE: Was Prophet Mohammed a caravan thieve?
April 17, 2020 at 7:51 am
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RE: Was Prophet Mohammed a caravan thieve?
April 17, 2020 at 1:05 pm
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RE: Was Prophet Mohammed a caravan thieve?
April 17, 2020 at 1:17 pm
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Why oh why, would they die for a lie...lol.
Guess you'd have to ask the scores of people who have done exactly that Kloro. For most of us here, though, it hardly matters whether big mo was liar, lunatic, or savior. Whichever of those three he was, he was a caravan raiding warlord. This is a problem for atlas...and he thinks that you and your lot are to blame for this misapprehension of big mo.
What do you think?
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RE: Was Prophet Mohammed a caravan thieve?
April 17, 2020 at 1:33 pm
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(April 17, 2020 at 1:17 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Why oh why, would they die for a lie...lol.
Guess you'd have to ask the scores of people who have done exactly that Kloro. For most of us here, though, it hardly matters whether big mo was liar, lunatic, or savior. Whichever of those three he was, he was a caravan raiding warlord. This is a problem for atlas...and he thinks that you and your lot are to blame for this misapprehension of big mo.
What do you think?
Atlas should be more concerned about getting his religious practices straight, that is. Delving into deep issues when you have the wrong number of prayers per day.... I'm feeling second hand embarassement.
Regarding the caravan raiding warlord part... Their are historical comments made by orientalist non Muslims about all Muhammad's battles.. you can check them out to have a more nuanced opinion.
I don't know where you get your *facts* about Muhammad from... probably it would be better if you put the references here.
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RE: Was Prophet Mohammed a caravan thieve?
April 17, 2020 at 1:43 pm
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What difference does it make if Mohammad raided caravans?? Jesus was a fanatic who physically attacked people, Moses was a murderer, blah blah blah.
None of these has any bearing on whether ANY of these people had a direct line to God. The only person who we can be certain had such a link was Belloq. If people would watch the fine documentary ‘Raiders Of The Lost Ark’, they’d know this.
Fuxxake.
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RE: Was Prophet Mohammed a caravan thieve?
April 17, 2020 at 2:07 pm
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People die for a lie everyday .Hell people die for a lie with h full knowledge it is a lie .
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RE: Was Prophet Mohammed a caravan thieve?
April 17, 2020 at 2:08 pm
(April 17, 2020 at 1:43 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: What difference does it make if Mohammad raided caravans?? Jesus was a fanatic who physically attacked people, Moses was a murderer, blah blah blah.
None of these has any bearing on whether ANY of these people had a direct line to God.
Tell that to all the other members of this board. Apparently their only problem with Muhammad is that he killed people. Whether he was right in doing so... they don't care.
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RE: Was Prophet Mohammed a caravan thieve?
April 17, 2020 at 2:14 pm
Quote:Tell that to all the other members of this board. Apparently their only problem with Muhammad is that he killed people. Whether he was right in doing so... they don't care.
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