So, what is it that Trump should have done differently?

[Brian37]

Honestly, from day one, Trump really has resisted any kind of lock down.  He's so worried about the stock market and he's listening more to marketing majors than STEM majors that he's going to mess this up, big time.  We're flattening the curve, in spite of his MANY missteps, but if you take your foot off the gas pedal now, things are just going to spike back up again.  

And I think that's been kinda the problem with republican ideology in general over the past 20-30 years: it's been extremely hostile to evidence based science, intellectualism and academia.  They listen to slick business majors left and right, but once a science major comes up and tells them that 2+2=4, they throw a fit and spend the next 5 years fighting to get the government to back them up.  And when you have a real, immediate problem that's based on real science, believing 2+2=5 will get millions killed.  

Until Trump came along, even though the republican base has always thought like this, their elected officials were at least smart enough not to act on it.  Trump changed that.  He is the republican id.  Sure, he has campaign people and public relations people trying to keep him in check and the republican media is working overtime to spin his antics into something reasonable, but when you still boil it all down, you still have the worst extremes of the republican party, doing whatever the hell they want and nobody is holding them back.  

I have a bad feeling that the recovery from the coronavirus is going to be a HUGE clusterfuck, especially in red states where the elected officials are all big Trump fans.  I know here, in Oklahoma, just before before everything was shut down our governor got dragged for proudly tweeting about being in a crowded restaurant with his family.  I'd be willing to bet other states have similar stories about their elected officials.  And all those red states, the ones we already know are going to vote for Trump in the 2020 election, I have a bad feeling that their recovery and reopening is going to be a huge clusterfuck that are going to have much higher death tolls than they should.  We already have riots in Michigan and other states of people demanding we open everything back up and I have to wonder, how many infections and deaths could be avoided if those people would just stay home?

I would hope that this will be what convinces the public to stop supporting republicans and realize that the republican philosophy doesn't look out for them, but the democrats are painfully bad at marketing themselves and don't know how to spread a message that resounds with people.

Trump is about Trump, nothing more. My late mother was a lifetime voting republican. She was still alive during his run and election. I can remember to this day, while she was in the nursing home, that November, walking back and forth from her room to activity room watching the returns. My mom early on in his run, decided she was not going to support him, and hated his conduct.

[GUBU]

Everything.

[Agnostico]

First Trump was a xenophobe for overreacting, now he didn't respond early enough...  Hehehe only in America

The only thing he did early is a travel ban.  Yeah, he's been a racist nationalist all along so I can totally see him doing that.  The fact that he only shut down travel to and from China was the problem.  

But there was a LOT more he could have done to get us ready.  

Remember how he's blaming Obama for not maintaining the emergency stock of medical supplies?  What was he doing over the past 3 years?  Why didn't he do that?

Remember the pandemic response team?  Trump ditched them.  They might have had a better idea on how to deal with this before it became a pandemic.  

Remember how he told everyone to go to work, even if they're feeling sick?  How many infections would have been prevented if he had not said that?  

Remember how he said it would disappear with warm weather?  When he said it was a hoax by the democrats/media?  Remember when he said there were just 15 cases and soon there would be none?  

Remember how he bitched and moaned about who was to blame for the virus instead of finding a solution to it?

Remember how he's not actually shut down very much, instead relying on the individual states to shut everything down?  Having individual states write their own shut down rules is like having a peeing section for your pool.

Remember how he's been more worried about the stock market and the economy than people's lives?  

Remember?  REMEMBER!  Remember!  REMEMBER!

The American electorate has always had a painfully short memory.  I'm afraid that's going to happen this time, too.  The disease will be resolved and a few months later, we're going to forget who botched our response to it.  I guess that's what happens to people who constantly have their ears plugged into right wing spin doctors.

Im not American... All I know is the world has put politics aside and are pointing the finger at China. Apart from America who blame their own
15th in average C19 cases and a death per capital ratio that is low compared to European nations. Y'all should be glad or at least stop bitching with each other

You have mainstream saying one thing and u have cable saying the complete opposite, it's just so out of control over there...

What would of happened if the dems were in power. They said Trump was overreacting. Biden (a rapist) called Trump a xenophobe cos of his decision
So they would of let things go for even longer and it would of been worse, like New York did (which everyone conveniently ignores)

[The Architect Of Fate]

m not American... All I know is the world has put politics aside and are pointing the finger at China. 

No it hasn't .Lot's of countries are blaming their leadership for their response .

Apart from America who blame their own

Again what China did is irrelevant to Trumps response 

15th in average C19 cases and a death per capital ratio that is low compared to European nations. Y'all should be glad or at least stop bitching with each other

No having a few less dead people doesn't mean we ignore  the people who died or the incompetence that lead to their deaths 

You have mainstream saying one thing and u have cable saying the complete opposite, it's just so out of control over there...

Nope 

What would of happened if the dems were in power.

Then they would be criticized and in the case of some governors have been  

 They said Trump was overreacting. Biden (a rapist) called Trump a xenophobe cos of his decision

Trump didn't overreact he underreacted , And weather Biden is rapist is aside the point that Trump has pushed xenophobia and that weather or not he was called names does not excuse his incompetence 

So they would of let things go for even longer and it would of been worse, like New York did (which everyone conveniently ignores)

Nothing anyone else did stopped Trump from taking this seriously and implementing good policies instead of his lack luster travel restrictions and apathy for weeks.

Your so desperate to ignore Trumps role you will cook up any excuse   

[GUBU]

First Trump was a xenophobe for overreacting, now he didn't respond early enough...  Hehehe only in America

The only thing he did early is a travel ban.

And even at that his travel ban happened after the airlines were closing off flights to China, was selectively applied (remember how he kept flights open to the UK which was already looking to be the worst affected of the European because of the idiotic "herd immunity" {in reality a let poor people die plan} strategy for no other reason than BoJo the Clown likes licking his arse) and lead to a panic rush of US citizens flooding back into unprepared airports because the Trump regime had so badly fucked up the testing strategy.

It's not a good sign when your one decisive action looks almost designed to make things worse.

[Jackalope]

The only thing he did early is a travel ban.

And even at that his travel ban happened after the airlines were closing off flights to China, was selectively applied (remember how he kept flights open to the UK which was already looking to be the worst affected of the European because of the idiotic "herd immunity" {in reality a let poor people die plan} strategy for no other reason than BoJo the Clown likes licking his arse) and lead to a panic rush of US citizens flooding back into unprepared airports because the Trump regime had so badly fucked up the testing strategy.

It's not a good sign when your one decisive action looks almost designed to make things worse.

It's also worth noting the insufficiency of that act when you consider that we already had community spread in WA state by then.

Monday morning quarterbacking aside, downplaying the seriousness of the matter and disseminating disinformation undermined containment and is undermining mitigation. No comprehensive, coherent national strategy was or is apparent. The captain jas let go of the wheel.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

And even at that his travel ban happened after the airlines were closing off flights to China, was selectively applied (remember how he kept flights open to the UK which was already looking to be the worst affected of the European because of the idiotic "herd immunity" {in reality a let poor people die plan} strategy for no other reason than BoJo the Clown likes licking his arse) and lead to a panic rush of US citizens flooding back into unprepared airports because the Trump regime had so badly fucked up the testing strategy.

It's not a good sign when your one decisive action looks almost designed to make things worse.

It's also worth noting the insufficiency of that act when you consider that we already had community spread in WA state by then.

Monday morning quarterbacking aside, downplaying the seriousness of the matter and disseminating disinformation undermined containment and is undermining mitigation.  No comprehensive, coherent national strategy was or is apparent.  The captain jas let go of the wheel.

Which isn’t surprising. Trump’s been captain for more than three years and still hasn’t read his job description.

Boru

[Abaddon_ire]

Yes thats right OP... Orange man bad, responsible for C19.
Not WHO. Not the Chinese communist polit bureau. Their our friends, peaceful.... Hehehe


Anyway was is the Kool-Aid?
We don't have that here and i notice a lot of Americans talking about it like its so popular, Why?

And who was it that cosied up to the chinese? And the Russians? And NorKor?

The orange menace, that's who.

And who was it who dismantled the team appointed to deal with such a pandemic? 

The orange menace, that's who.

And who was it who claimed that the 15 cases identified would shortly be down to zero? 

The orange menace, that's who.

The USA has royally fucked itself by putting that crank in charge.

[Agnostico]

And who was it that cosied up to the chinese? And the Russians? And NorKor?

The orange menace, that's who.

And who was it who dismantled the team appointed to deal with such a pandemic? 

The orange menace, that's who.

And who was it who claimed that the 15 cases identified would shortly be down to zero? 

The orange menace, that's who.

The USA has royally fucked itself by putting that crank in charge.

Ah well such compelling evidence. It really is all Trumps fault that C19 entered America... What an idiot, he could of kept the USA free from C19.

Well that means that it's Trumps fault that the whole world has it as well cos everyone follows Americas lead, what they do the rest of the world does.
So if Trump had of acted promptly then the world would have followed and C19 would of never gone around...

Such a bad orange man yet so many retards voted for him, why are Americans so retarded???

[Brian37]

It's also worth noting the insufficiency of that act when you consider that we already had community spread in WA state by then.

Monday morning quarterbacking aside, downplaying the seriousness of the matter and disseminating disinformation undermined containment and is undermining mitigation.  No comprehensive, coherent national strategy was or is apparent.  The captain jas let go of the wheel.

Which isn’t surprising. Trump’s been captain for more than three years and still hasn’t read his job description.

Boru

The fucker couldn't find Waldo if he was standing in front of him. And he doesn't think of himself as a "Captain" he thinks of himself as an authoritarian.