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RE: Why won't God heal amputees?
June 4, 2020 at 7:15 am
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(June 4, 2020 at 6:33 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (June 4, 2020 at 6:17 am)WinterHold Wrote: This life is very short, such healing of limbs might happen if we lived for billions of years -like our universe-.
So it's not a matter of limbs don't grow back; it's just a matter of a short life not enough for the limb to re-grow.
A mere 100 years can cripple us and make us rotten.
That's pretty fucking stupid. Starfish can regrow a missing limb in a matter of months. While I get that people (with very few exceptions) aren't starfish, even scaling up and allowing for the greater complexity of human beings, a limb could be regrown in just a few years.
But the topic isn't 'Why don't limbs grow back?' but 'Why won't God heal amputees?' Given the superpowers often attributed to God, it seems fairly certain that he could regrow a limb instantly, not the 'billions of years' you posit.
You should combine this notion with your primitive, hate-fuel ideas of revenge. If you cut off the hand of a thief who is later found to be innocent, God can simply regrow the hand, right?
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No. The hand of the thieve is not meant to grow back in this life, that's how serious the sentence is.
Just like the years taken from an inmate in prison; hands are just like years: they don't grow back.
(June 4, 2020 at 6:34 am)Belacqua Wrote: (June 4, 2020 at 6:17 am)WinterHold Wrote: This life is very short, such healing of limbs might happen if we lived for billions of years -like our universe-.
So it's not a matter of limbs don't grow back; it's just a matter of a short life not enough for the limb to re-grow.
A mere 100 years can cripple us and make us rotten.
Clearly God has to balance out what would do the most good in the world.
On the one hand, healing amputees would give great joy to a few people.
On the other hand, it would take away one of the Internet atheists' greatest pleasures -- asking every few days why God doesn't heal amputees.
Good explanation
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RE: Why won't God heal amputees?
June 4, 2020 at 7:23 am
(June 4, 2020 at 6:34 am)Belacqua Wrote: (June 4, 2020 at 6:17 am)WinterHold Wrote: This life is very short, such healing of limbs might happen if we lived for billions of years -like our universe-.
So it's not a matter of limbs don't grow back; it's just a matter of a short life not enough for the limb to re-grow.
A mere 100 years can cripple us and make us rotten.
Clearly God has to balance out what would do the most good in the world.
On the one hand, healing amputees would give great joy to a few people.
On the other hand, it would take away one of the Internet atheists' greatest pleasures -- asking every few days why God doesn't heal amputees.
It predates the Internet, mate. People have been asking that very question for at least 2300 years - it's a specific example of the general case of Epicurus' Trilemma.
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RE: Why won't God heal amputees?
June 4, 2020 at 7:26 am
(June 4, 2020 at 6:36 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Starfish can regrow entire bodies. Fishermen used to chop them up and toss them overboard when they found them eating an oyster. That just resulted in several new starfish.
IDK, maybe starfish kiss God's ass better than humans? Oh but Gawd were not allowed to question why god does stuff .Nor are we allowed to to ask theists or demand an explanation .Because it makes god botherers cranky
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RE: Why won't God heal amputees?
June 4, 2020 at 7:26 am
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(June 4, 2020 at 7:15 am)WinterHold Wrote: (June 4, 2020 at 6:33 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: That's pretty fucking stupid. Starfish can regrow a missing limb in a matter of months. While I get that people (with very few exceptions) aren't starfish, even scaling up and allowing for the greater complexity of human beings, a limb could be regrown in just a few years.
But the topic isn't 'Why don't limbs grow back?' but 'Why won't God heal amputees?' Given the superpowers often attributed to God, it seems fairly certain that he could regrow a limb instantly, not the 'billions of years' you posit.
You should combine this notion with your primitive, hate-fuel ideas of revenge. If you cut off the hand of a thief who is later found to be innocent, God can simply regrow the hand, right?
Boru
No. The hand of the thieve is not meant to grow back in this life, that's how serious the sentence is.
Just like the years taken from an inmate in prison; hands are just like years: they don't grow back.
Even if the thief (and it's 'thief', not 'thieve'. 'Thief' is a noun, 'thieve' is a verb) is found to have been innocent and unjustly punished? Even the most careful and well-meaning jury imaginable can make a mistake.
In such a case, shouldn't Allah be merciful and give the innocent man back his hand?
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RE: Why won't God heal amputees?
June 4, 2020 at 7:28 am
At work.
(June 4, 2020 at 6:34 am)Belacqua Wrote: Clearly God has to balance out what would do the most good in the world.
On the one hand, healing amputees would give great joy to a few people.
On the other hand, it would take away one of the Internet atheists' greatest pleasures -- asking every few days why God doesn't heal amputees.
This has to be the weirdest, possibly most hurtful and down right bat sheet insane/inane things I've ever read you post Belaqua.
Are you all right? Is something wrong?
Could some one have hacked your account or, perhapse a younger relative logged on and used your posting handle?
Much confusion on my side of the screen.
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RE: Why won't God heal amputees?
June 4, 2020 at 7:30 am
(June 4, 2020 at 6:33 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Given the superpowers often attributed to God, it seems fairly certain that he could regrow a limb instantly, not the 'billions of years' you posit.
That's what Jesus did in the Garden, right, more or less? And, without surgery and/or stitches!
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RE: Why won't God heal amputees?
June 4, 2020 at 7:33 am
(June 4, 2020 at 7:26 am)SUNGULA Wrote: (June 4, 2020 at 6:36 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Starfish can regrow entire bodies. Fishermen used to chop them up and toss them overboard when they found them eating an oyster. That just resulted in several new starfish.
IDK, maybe starfish kiss God's ass better than humans? Oh but Gawd were not allowed to question why god does stuff .Nor are we allowed to to ask theists or demand an explanation .Because it makes god botherers cranky HowDareYou!ism is the core of religion.
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RE: Why won't God heal amputees?
June 4, 2020 at 7:33 am
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Quote:No. The hand of the thieve is not meant to grow back in this life, that's how serious the sentence is.
Just like the years taken from an inmate in prison; hands are just like years: they don't grow back.
Once you make this faulty comparison between the permanent and traumatic mutilation of a human being to the temporary incarceration in prison . One again you prove why no one takes you seriously
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Mutilating some poor bastard for A MINOR CRIME !!!!!!
Quote:Clearly God has to balance out what would do the most good in the world.
On the one hand, healing amputees would give great joy to a few people.
On the other hand, it would take away one of the Internet atheists' greatest pleasures -- asking every few days why God doesn't heal amputees.
Then gods kind of an asshole
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RE: Why won't God heal amputees?
June 4, 2020 at 7:37 am
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(June 4, 2020 at 7:15 am)WinterHold Wrote: (June 4, 2020 at 6:34 am)Belacqua Wrote: Clearly God has to balance out what would do the most good in the world.
On the one hand, healing amputees would give great joy to a few people.
On the other hand, it would take away one of the Internet atheists' greatest pleasures -- asking every few days why God doesn't heal amputees.
Good explanation
No it's not. His explanation is the usual theist cop-out: "You're asking too many questions."
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Why won't God heal amputees?
June 4, 2020 at 8:02 am
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(June 4, 2020 at 7:28 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: Much confusion on my side of the screen.
Here's a common way to think of it: I know what I would do if I were God. And since nobody's doing that, it's proof that there's no God.
But here's another way to think of it:
Look at it this way. If there were a God, what would it be for? Obviously, the only thing a God would be good for is making people like me happy. Because otherwise it would be worthless.
Now you and I are Internet atheists. We come on the Internet to talk about atheism. And what is it that makes Internet atheists happy? Judging from this forum, it makes us happy to go on line every now and then and demand to know why God doesn't heal amputees. Do a search on the Internet and see how many times the same question has been asked.
So if God started healing amputees, it means that people like me would lose something that makes us happy. We couldn't ask our question any more.
So clearly, the fact that God doesn't heal amputees proves there is a God.
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