Statistically Speaking

[no one]

No system will ever be perfect as long as humans are involved in the process.

Whether someone makes an honest mistake, or willfully abuses their power, innocence suffers.

[The Grand Nudger]

Terrified of sharkbites? Please, I'm A Florida Man. I tricked my (future)wife into swimming a channel at 3am with me just to see if she was the kind of ride or die bitch that would risk a sharkbite to get laid.

It worked, and here we are all these years later. I'm irrationally unafraid of sharkbites, to the point that I once seriously considered trying to yank a g. hammer out of the water with my bare hands because she wouldn't take my bait, lol. We were gonna tie her on top of the little red ford focus we were driving at the time. I'd have been meme-famous. Oh well.

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Its true that no system with humans in it will ever be perfect, but that doesn't mean that any system with humans in it must, by necessity, be racist.

We can make other mistakes..........

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I'm looking at this from the perspective of a person who was raised from birth to be an overt white supremacist and is, thus, familiar with contemporary white supremacist propaganda and how it works, why it works, and who it works on.  It was not created to convince racists, they don't need any convincing.  It was created for you.  It was created for people who disagree with racism, but might agree with some other thing that can be used to privilege racism, as a third option.

What part of my logic do you disagree with?

Do you believe, for example, that because perfection is impossible, some percentage of rights abrogation is acceptible?  What percentage of rights abrogation is a small enough percentage?

I was required to attend the July Klavern because it met at our house each year.

As for perfection, not possible. One reason is that cops come and go. A "bad cop" seldom reveals himself early on, he's looking for a "juicy moment". Until then the facades are up. (I learned this from watching our Chief of Police sit next to the Y-donor at the Klaverns.) I do believe zero tolerance for any kind of misbehavior will eventually produce a force we could respect.

[The Grand Nudger]

Does something have to be perfect for it to not be racist? Or, if you prefer, is it possible for something to be..not racist...and still not perfect?

(the klan is not contemporary white supremacy, it's a joke - especially to contemporary white supremacists. It's not done that way anymore because the klan fucked the pooch)

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Does something have to be perfect for it to not be racist?  Or, if you prefer, is it possible for something to be..not racist...and still not perfect?

(the klan is not contemporary white supremacy, it's a joke - especially to contemporary white supremacists.  It's not done that way anymore because the klan fucked the pooch)

As long as there are humans in any system there will be some degree of racism.

And the son of that chief of police has been chief of police for forty years in that little Indiana town.

[The Grand Nudger]

Why? Why must humans be racist? Are you racist? Is it impossible for you not to be racist?

[no one]

I'm not saying a system must be racist. I'm saying people are always going to be the flaw in the system. Not the system itself.

[The Grand Nudger]

Do you think that's true in the case of the us police system? That the racist people are the problem, and not a racist system? That if we removed every racist, the justice system in the us would not produce racist outcomes?

[no one]

The humans are racist, not the system, but the humans run the system.

Speeding is against the law, no matter who does it. However, if a cop only tickets people of color for the offense, how is the system to blame?

[The Grand Nudger]

Don't even get me started on speed traps. That's N Floridas bread and fucking butter, lol.

I think that you may be mistaken. Our system of policing was very explicitly founded on white supremacy. A non racist works towards that end as surely as a racist does. It's not a choice that they're presented with. They don't get to decide where they patrol or what constitutes a crime. They're modern day boogeymen, nightriders chasing runaways for a (shitty) paycheck.

I'll believe otherwise when I see a cruiser on the corner of every gated community street, where more pills and illicit drugs and blood money change hands than any ghetto. I'll still think that they're pieces of shit, in that event, but I'll at least acknowledge that they're equitable pieces of shit.