is Seattle the new fort Sumter?

[The Grand Nudger]

I see a great argument for why america needs antifa right now.

Tanks and soldiers, blood and soil? Are you more than one bad plate of shrimp from blowing yourself up on a city street drich? What if the government does the right thing, are you gonna bus yourself in with other patriots to take it back for Dear Leader?

[Drich]

BLM and Trump are both doing God's work to some degree .... as is every being in the universe ... not just humans.

Hi. U believe there is a God, right. And if your Christian u believe that God loves people, that he's omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent and the rest.
Why then would he allow sin, pain, suffering and evil to prevail? If there really is God and Satan doing battle in a war of good and evil why is Satan winning?

youtube.com/watch?v=6DZnBbo7R7I&t=521s

The short answer is this world does not belong to god. it was given to us and we traded for the knowledge of good and evil. Which Satan is the master for thus is the master of us and this world.

Ever hear the lord's prayer?

Your kingdom come, your will be done. On earth as it is in heaven... Why would we christian pray this is this was God's world God's kingdom we lived in?

[The Architect Of Fate]

would need tanks just a few truck loads of soldiers who will go systematically building to building clearing and detaining anyone after a lawful order to leave has been issued. I think the only think they are waiting for is to declare these people terrorists so they can strip them of their right and let them cool off a gitmo.

Ah Dirch jerking off about taking people rights away and locking them up in camps . His authoritarian fetish on full display 

lets see how long they last after they've been declared terrorists.

He already done that and they have not done shit because he knows the public outrage would sink him

[The Grand Nudger]

Maybe you can shout god is great while you do it. Iblis hates that.

[UtilitarianDeist]

I believe that God is omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent and omnibenevolent but I don't think I believe he's any of those things in any sort of sense that any Christian would accept.


God does whatever he wants which is whatever is metaphysically possible. It may be the case that this world is mostly suffering but that doesn't mean that reality as a whole is. The amount of suffering on this one planet is tiny compared to the rest of God's well-being. We're cosmically unimportant to him.


If Satan exists he's just part of God too.

And such a Satan may be 'winning' on this planet but overall he isn't winning if this planet is cosmically unimportant and insignificant to God.

All the pain and suffering on this planet is, to God, just like an itch that he wants to scratch. Ever had an itch that is really satisfying to scratch? That's what the suffering on this planet is like to God.

So you are a deist... Please elaborate on what u believe and your journey up to here if u like cos im interested

I believe that an infinite mind exists and that that infinite mind should get whatever it wants and does get whatever it wants and it's morally justified because classical utilitarian is true, that infinite mind is a 'utility monster' and I bite the bullet on that thought experiment.

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Nah, he's just pretending (or stupid).  His god is way too interventionist.

I don't follow a religion and I wouldn't say that I believe that God intervenes. That's why I consider myself to be a deist. To me God 'intervening' is just the universe playing with itself. It's somewhat pantheistic and I wouldn't call it incompatible with deism.

After all, there is a sense of 'deism' that just means belief in a deity. And that's the key point. I believe in a deity. But I'm also without that extra stuff like following a religion or having a God separate to the universe that intervenes in it, etc.

[The Grand Nudger]

Excellent. God doesn't intervene. Then we don't need god to make sense of good. There is no divine intervention occurring or required for moral positions.

A person can be a moral realist and make true sense of good without god.
A person can be a moral subjectivist and make personal sense of good without god.
A person can be a moral nihilist and make nonsense out of good without god.

I'll even throw in a bonus.

A person can be a moral noncognitivist and make sense out of YUM! without god.

A person can hold any of these positions without the intervention of a god, and conveniently, can hold any of these positions even with the intervention of a god, because these moral positions have absolutely nothing to do with whether or not a god exists or intervenes.

[The Architect Of Fate]

Dumbest commentary on the Chaz 

The irony of the CHAZ or CHOP security
I don’t personally care that the PSJBGC carry weapons, concealed or otherwise. They have that right (though it’s worth noting that under Mayor Jenny Durkan’s toothless emergency decree, weapons are banned). But it’s worth noting the irony of left-wing activists setting up this kind of security

 Yeah because it not like Right wing groups have been threatening to take the area back .

Fringe voices on the Left — the kind that would, say, overtake a six-block piece of land thanks to feckless leadership of a terrified mayor 

Too my knowledge the mayor isn't terrified.The mayor just isn't a warmogering fool like commander bone spurs  and doesn't want a blood bath . 

 believe borders are racist. 

A position not commonly held . Borders are not inherently racist .But right wing border policies and border scar mongering seem kind of racist . (hell bernie sanders believes in borders )

Some even argue they shouldn’t exist.

Yup some not all not most but some 

Yet, when it comes to “their” land, they see some benefits to using borders to keep some potential dangers out.

And they did a pool to decide how many people in CHAZ hold either of these positions ? I thought not 

And of course, far Leftists are anti-gun. 

Umm no SOME far leftists are Anti gun (though even that's not totally accurate ) There are plenty of pro gun leftists 

Indeed, they constantly speak of repealing the Second Amendment. 

Again SOME Leftists do another most definitely are second amendment 
 

Yet, these voices are silent when it comes to heavily armed security as they play fort on Capitol Hill.

As an anti gun lefty i don't like the fact they have guns .But it's minor disagreement when compared to what we agree on 
So this is just a heap of straw men and stereotypes

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And of course the whole thing that right wing media group have been driven out of the CHAZ . Yeah the right have not desperately tried to the area a lawless hellscape and totally balanced and honest . It's not like they have doctored photos or taken taken video clips out of context or exaggerated them way out of proportion . All to agree with Trump or justify his use of disproportionate force or anything .

[The Grand Nudger]

It gets even weirder when we remember that the american left is, more accurately, the american moderate right wing.

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They don't need any footage anyway, they're fine to post videos of other cities burning and breathlessly report on british comedy sketches.

[The Architect Of Fate]

It gets even weirder when we remember that the american left is, more accurately, the american moderate right wing.

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They don't need any footage anyway, they're fine to post videos of other cities burning and breathlessly report on british comedy sketches.

True

[no one]

Is drick the new poster child for birth control?