is Seattle the new fort Sumter?

[The Architect Of Fate]

If you could think for yourself you might be dangerous.

If you could think at all you might be dangerous

[Lek]

Show me your study.

[The Architect Of Fate]

Show me your study. 

[Aegon]

Oh man!  I forgot about Serpico. Now I'm convinced!

:lol:

You see the point though?

I don't think you're really interested in learning anything contrary to what you think. Otherwise you'd take it upon yourself to understand the perspective of protesters. You'd take it upon yourself to see outside of the narrative you take for granted to be reality. You'd take it upon yourself to read the studies on the "blue wall of silence," of which there have been several to confirm its existence. If you're relying on us to bring these to you, then you don't actually care, and if you don't care then why should I waste my time gathering data for you?

[The Grand Nudger]

There's a positive takeaway to people like Lek.

They deny the existence of reality because they think..that if reality were...well..real..that would be bad.

Hey, maybe that's just me being an optimist though. Let's see. What say you Lek? Do you disagree that the state of affairs invoked by protests movements would be bad, or do you hope that they're wrong about that state of affairs being in effect? If it's the latter, just how right would protest movements have to be? Do they need to get every detail right, or is there some smaller number of details that would, by itself, be untenable? What percentage, and which details?

[downbeatplumb]

There's a positive takeaway to people like Lek.  

They deny the existence of reality because they think..that if reality were...well..real..that would be bad.

Hey, maybe that's just me being an optimist though.  Let's see.  What say you Lek?  Do you disagree that the state of affairs invoked by protests movements would be bad, or do you hope that they're wrong about that state of affairs being in effect?  If it's the latter, just how right would protest movements have to be?  Do they need to get every detail right, or is there some smaller number of details that would, by itself, be untenable?  What percentage, and which details?

Lek is a christian so is a master of self delusion.

[The Grand Nudger]

Doubtful. Like all christians, and indeed christ himself...or so magic book says, he suffers from the long dark night of the soul.

Let's wait to see how much a protest movement has to get right, and which things it has to get right, as he sees it. Delusional people are still people.

Granted, Lek may not actually be a person so much as a green left handed widget...but that's a decision he'll have to make for himself.

[Lek]

I have no problem with protests or protest movements.

[The Grand Nudger]

Just this one..or...?

Any idea on where you stand with the rest? Both the rest in the sense of protest movements and the rest as in any question posed to you? I ask because I, as a person who's convinced that people are decent and good to their very core, would take your evasiveness as a signal that you are not fully committed to or comfortable with the things you've said in this thread. Even the slightest encouragement from you would reenforce my suspicions of your general character as a human being. Granted, that makes it easy to fool me with a performative response - but even a performative response would be easier for you to achieve than what I've seen so far.

[The Architect Of Fate]

I have no problem with protests or protest movements.

Bull