Christchurch mosque shootings: the heartbreaking hearing

[WinterHold]

And once again you raise the "Islamic terrorism" scapegoat to escape the shattering mirage of the "white-man = civilized-non-killing-angel".

Despite that the terrorist is in front of you and is white and is non-Muslim and his agenda has nothing to with Islam, you still raise the "Islamic terrorism" card.

Now; you claimed to be a psychic of some sort that knows what I will become in the future. Read what you are writing; see the similarities between you and the terrorist Tarrant; see how Islamophobia covered you both in tar and turned you into psychics claiming to know the future and know what is in the hearts of people.

But I repeated my agenda in here so many times, over and over, but yet I meet people like you who don't like my religion and claim to know what's inside me.

What if I told you that I hope you brought your shitting pants, because obviously you -and all the Islamophobic- have begun to shit their pants as the mirage began to shatter. Look at you for example: you are trying your hardest to destroy my image, you are desperately trying to play Tarrant's game by spreading Islamophobia.

You are nothing. And who reads my posts knows me; and who reads yours know you.

I'm not trying to scapegoat anyone.  I referred to Islamist terrorism because that was the topic.

The topic is about the Christchurch mosque terrorist attack commit by a "white supremacist terrorist".

But you got stuck in an infinite loop of converting it to Islamic terrorism. You are obsessed and stuck in a loop. The obsessive repeating you are doing is telling me one thing: you can't even believe your eyes that non-Muslim terrorists exist. Wake up, the 9/11 era and the anti-Muslim wave is long overdue for retirement.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

I'm not trying to scapegoat anyone.  I referred to Islamist terrorism because that was the topic.

The topic is about the Christchurch mosque terrorist attack commit by a "white supremacist terrorist".

But you got stuck in an infinite loop of converting it to Islamic terrorism. You are obsessed and stuck in a loop. The obsessive repeating you are doing is telling me one thing: you can't even believe your eyes that non-Muslim terrorists exist. Wake up, the 9/11 era and the anti-Muslim wave is long overdue for retirement.

I was responding specifically to Deese’s post. 

I know exactly who was responsible for the slaughter in Christchurch. He was an Islamophobic white supremacist and the people he killed and injured did nothing - absolutely NOTHING - to deserve what happened to them. You get no argument from me on that score.

I’ve had more experience with white, non-Muslim terrorists than you can possibly imagine, so kindly fuck off.

You do realize that terror attacks by Muslim extremists are still taking place, right? And that the harm caused by their earlier attacks still lingers, right?

I don’t deny that there’s a lot of unwarranted anti-Muslim sentiment in the world - no rational person could deny that. But there’s nothing wrong with anti-terrorist sentiment. ‘I hate Muslims because they’re all terrorists’ is an indefensible, idiotic statement. ‘I hate terrorists whether or not they’re Muslims’ is perfectly reasonable.

Boru

[WinterHold]

The topic is about the Christchurch mosque terrorist attack commit by a "white supremacist terrorist".

But you got stuck in an infinite loop of converting it to Islamic terrorism. You are obsessed and stuck in a loop. The obsessive repeating you are doing is telling me one thing: you can't even believe your eyes that non-Muslim terrorists exist. Wake up, the 9/11 era and the anti-Muslim wave is long overdue for retirement.

I was responding specifically to Deese’s post. 

I know exactly who was responsible for the slaughter in Christchurch. He was an Islamophobic white supremacist and the people he killed and injured did nothing - absolutely NOTHING - to deserve what happened to them. You get no argument from me on that score.

I’ve had more experience with white, non-Muslim terrorists than you can possibly imagine, so kindly fuck off.

You do realize that terror attacks by Muslim extremists are still taking place, right? And that the harm caused by their earlier attacks still lingers, right?

I don’t deny that there’s a lot of unwarranted anti-Muslim sentiment in the world - no rational person could deny that. But there’s nothing wrong with anti-terrorist sentiment. ‘I hate Muslims because they’re all terrorists’ is an indefensible, idiotic statement. ‘I hate terrorists whether or not they’re Muslims’ is perfectly reasonable.

Boru

Attacks by Muslim extremists thin out when we observe just a single massacre from the other side.
Talking about Islamic terrorism when you are faced  by a white non-Muslim terrorism is running from that truth.

Repeating that over and over means just one thing: you want us to stop looking at the terrorism of non-Muslims like the terrorist Tarrant and keep repeating the anti-Muslim propaganda over and over. Cheap if you ask me.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

I was responding specifically to Deese’s post. 

I know exactly who was responsible for the slaughter in Christchurch. He was an Islamophobic white supremacist and the people he killed and injured did nothing - absolutely NOTHING - to deserve what happened to them. You get no argument from me on that score.

I’ve had more experience with white, non-Muslim terrorists than you can possibly imagine, so kindly fuck off.

You do realize that terror attacks by Muslim extremists are still taking place, right? And that the harm caused by their earlier attacks still lingers, right?

I don’t deny that there’s a lot of unwarranted anti-Muslim sentiment in the world - no rational person could deny that. But there’s nothing wrong with anti-terrorist sentiment. ‘I hate Muslims because they’re all terrorists’ is an indefensible, idiotic statement. ‘I hate terrorists whether or not they’re Muslims’ is perfectly reasonable.

Boru

Attacks by Muslim extremists thin out when we observe just a single massacre from the other side.
Talking about Islamic terrorism when you are faced  by a white non-Muslim terrorism is running from that truth.

I'm not sure what you mean by that.  How do terror attacks 'thin out'?

Repeating that over and over means just one thing: you want us to stop looking at the terrorism of non-Muslims like the terrorist Tarrant and keep repeating the anti-Muslim propaganda over and over. Cheap if you ask me.

No, accusing me of spreading anti-Muslim propaganda is what's cheap.  It's also untrue.

Boru

[WinterHold]

Attacks by Muslim extremists thin out when we observe just a single massacre from the other side.
Talking about Islamic terrorism when you are faced  by a white non-Muslim terrorism is running from that truth.

I'm not sure what you mean by that.  How do terror attacks 'thin out'?

1 far-right non-Muslim terrorist killed 50 people, including children -intentionally-:

Before the hearing, Abdul Aziz Wahabzadah, who fought off Tarrant at the Linwood Islamic Center, said in a telephone interview that it was important for him to be in court on Monday to see the attacker whom he managed to frighten away, saving lives in the process.

“He came and killed all the innocent women and children with a gun, but when his turn came [for a beating], he ran away like a coward,” Wahabzadah said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/brenton-tarrant-sentence-new-zealand-mosque-attack-christchurch/2020/08/23/abd51832-e10c-11ea-82d8-5e55d47e90ca_story.html

St. John Ambulance sent 20 ambulances and other vehicles to the mosques.[217] Most of the wounded were taken to Christchurch Hospital. Forty-eight people with gunshot wounds, including young children, were treated at the hospital,[218][219


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christchur..._shootings

Looking at a child in the eyes then shoot them is what I mean.
Then you go back in history and look at what non-Muslims did to Africans enslaving them, then you look how America was emptied from all its natives to understand what I mean by the poor comparison between Islamic terrorism and non-Muslim terrorism.

Now; back to the OP.

[Peebothuhlu]

At work.

Why is WinterHold trying to compare 'Terrorist Oranges' to 'Imperialist Apples'?

Slavery, which interestingly both Christians and Muslims practiced, is a completely different 'Thing' than Terrorism.

I get that English is not their first language but...... sheesh.

[Deesse23]

I get that English is not their first language but...... sheesh.

Language is not the problem. Not at all.

Ignorance is, willful ignorance. Caused by putting ones religion in front of everything else, including ones humanity.

With the OP he desperately tried ot lump us all together with one crazy individual from NZ. Doesnt matter if you label him "terrorist" or "Kentucky Fried Chicken". We have nothing in common with him, other than Atlass´ unwarranted "guilt by association". He utterly failed in this feeble attempt.

I then introduced islamist terrorism, and suggested to compare a certain islamists views (one on this forum) with the views of militant suicidal islamist terrorists in return, which is entirely fair given his OP, so please spare us with your "stay on topic" BS. I didnt create this topic, Atlass did. If he cant stand the heat, he should keep the door to the kitchen closed.

He has nothing to compare us to the NZ guy, but wild equivocations as "you are both islamophobic", which is a rather blatant distortion of reality. As i alreay told him, our criticism of Islam is in no way equal to killing muslims. We also (Boru pointed out, several times) never condoned killing of innocent muslims (unlike Atlass who repeatedly expressed his approval of the suffering of others). We even express our grief for those innocent victims of violence.

Ergo: We cant be compared with the NZ terrorist, there is simply no base for that.

But what do islamist terrorists have in common with the islamist who is constantly trying to slander all other forumites?
Well we can ask ourselves (and Atlass) several questions, which Atlass certainly will avoid to answer:

What is the just punishment for theft in your opinion?
What is the just punishment for theft in an suicidal islamist terrorist opinion?

Should people be allowed to have sexual relations without having signed a contract (= enforcement of marriage before having sex. We have CLEAR statements from Atlass on this!)
What is Atlass´opinion on this?
What is a suicidal islamist terrorists opinion?

How much worth is a womans testimony in court? We do have clear statements of Atlass on this topic.
What is Atlass´opinion on this?
What is a suicidal islamist terrorists opinion?

Death penalty? In this very thread are his clear statements.
What is Atlass´opinion on this?
What is a suicidal islamist terrorists opinion?

The list goes on and on......

[The Grand Nudger]

I was responding specifically to Deese’s post. 

I know exactly who was responsible for the slaughter in Christchurch. He was an Islamophobic white supremacist and the people he killed and injured did nothing - absolutely NOTHING - to deserve what happened to them. You get no argument from me on that score.

I’ve had more experience with white, non-Muslim terrorists than you can possibly imagine, so kindly fuck off.

You do realize that terror attacks by Muslim extremists are still taking place, right? And that the harm caused by their earlier attacks still lingers, right?

I don’t deny that there’s a lot of unwarranted anti-Muslim sentiment in the world - no rational person could deny that. But there’s nothing wrong with anti-terrorist sentiment. ‘I hate Muslims because they’re all terrorists’ is an indefensible, idiotic statement. ‘I hate terrorists whether or not they’re Muslims’ is perfectly reasonable.

Boru

Attacks by Muslim extremists thin out when we observe just a single massacre from the other side.
Talking about Islamic terrorism when you are faced  by a white non-Muslim terrorism is running from that truth.

Repeating that over and over means just one thing: you want us to stop looking at the terrorism of non-Muslims like the terrorist Tarrant and keep repeating the anti-Muslim propaganda over and over. Cheap if you ask me.

That's not how dead people work, at all.  Nothing thins out in this little cycle of misery, and the beef between islamists and white supremacists feeds into both islamism and white supremacy.  Each pointing to the existence of the other as though this somehow explained their own.

In a sense, I suppose they do - competing claims to supremacy can't stand each other - go figure.

[WinterHold]

1 far-right non-Muslim terrorist killed 50 people, including children -intentionally-:

Before the hearing, Abdul Aziz Wahabzadah, who fought off Tarrant at the Linwood Islamic Center, said in a telephone interview that it was important for him to be in court on Monday to see the attacker whom he managed to frighten away, saving lives in the process.

“He came and killed all the innocent women and children with a gun, but when his turn came [for a beating], he ran away like a coward,” Wahabzadah said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/brenton-tarrant-sentence-new-zealand-mosque-attack-christchurch/2020/08/23/abd51832-e10c-11ea-82d8-5e55d47e90ca_story.html

St. John Ambulance sent 20 ambulances and other vehicles to the mosques.[217] Most of the wounded were taken to Christchurch Hospital. Forty-eight people with gunshot wounds, including young children, were treated at the hospital,[218][219


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christchur..._shootings

Looking at a child in the eyes then shoot them is what I mean.
Then you go back in history and look at what non-Muslims did to Africans enslaving them, then you look how America was emptied from all its natives to understand what I mean by the poor comparison between Islamic terrorism and non-Muslim terrorism.

Now; back to the OP.

[The Grand Nudger]

You can't have a serious discussion about the subject if you can't tell it apart from any pile of other bad things.