Posts: 1761
Threads: 17
Joined: August 2, 2019
Reputation:
6
RE: Question about "faith"
September 28, 2020 at 3:57 pm
(This post was last modified: September 28, 2020 at 3:58 pm by John 6IX Breezy.)
Since the word soul is a translation from the original Hebrew, you are putting the cart before the horse by saying we disagree about what a soul is, as opposed to disagreeing about what נֶ֫פֶשׁ means.
Posts: 67635
Threads: 140
Joined: June 28, 2011
Reputation:
161
RE: Question about "faith"
September 28, 2020 at 4:03 pm
(This post was last modified: September 28, 2020 at 4:03 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Scraping the bottom of the barrel there, John. I'm not interested in bickering with a cultist over the proper translation of their magic books. I don't care.
I've been wondering why you're so uncomfortable with so much of your own religion that you've selected this route for the thread, start to finish.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Posts: 1761
Threads: 17
Joined: August 2, 2019
Reputation:
6
RE: Question about "faith"
September 28, 2020 at 4:17 pm
(This post was last modified: September 28, 2020 at 4:17 pm by John 6IX Breezy.)
You care enough about the bickering to consistently get things wrong. That's more than chance would predict in statistical terms lol.
Posts: 3638
Threads: 20
Joined: July 20, 2011
Reputation:
47
RE: Question about "faith"
September 28, 2020 at 5:43 pm
(This post was last modified: September 28, 2020 at 5:44 pm by Simon Moon.)
(September 28, 2020 at 4:17 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: You care enough about the bickering to consistently get things wrong. That's more than chance would predict in statistical terms lol.
And so you continue to claim...
The only problem is, there are about 30K denominations of Christianity, and many of them disagree on major points of doctrine.
I can assure you, that it would be quite easy to find dozens of Christians among my own family and friends, that disagree with you on some of what you claim is 'correct'. And they can refer to Bible passages to support their contention that they are correct, and you are wrong.
And I could also query many theology schools, and also get different interpretations of your claims that we are wrong.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
Posts: 1761
Threads: 17
Joined: August 2, 2019
Reputation:
6
RE: Question about "faith"
September 28, 2020 at 6:00 pm
(This post was last modified: September 28, 2020 at 6:13 pm by John 6IX Breezy.)
That's the equivalent of non-scientists claiming science isn't reliable because scientists disagree. I don't believe truth is established by unanimous vote, perhaps you do, and we can disagree about that.
Posts: 1679
Threads: 5
Joined: September 26, 2018
Reputation:
12
RE: Question about "faith"
September 28, 2020 at 6:47 pm
(September 28, 2020 at 6:00 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: That's the equivalent of non-scientists claiming science isn't reliable because scientists disagree. I don't believe truth is established by unanimous vote, perhaps you do, and we can disagree about that.
So, your religious views are "Truth"?
STFU
Also, I can tell you are not any form of scientist, though you certainly know some canned Popper quotes.
Posts: 33718
Threads: 1422
Joined: March 15, 2013
Reputation:
152
RE: Question about "faith"
September 28, 2020 at 8:54 pm
(This post was last modified: September 28, 2020 at 8:56 pm by Silver.)
(September 28, 2020 at 12:01 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: And why did we conjecture souls in the first place?
(September 28, 2020 at 12:38 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: It's a common error.
So is theistic thinking.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
Posts: 3638
Threads: 20
Joined: July 20, 2011
Reputation:
47
RE: Question about "faith"
September 28, 2020 at 9:19 pm
(September 28, 2020 at 6:00 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: That's the equivalent of non-scientists claiming science isn't reliable because scientists disagree. I don't believe truth is established by unanimous vote, perhaps you do, and we can disagree about that.
Oh, I understand that you believe you have the truth.
But how would you go about demonstrating that you do have the truth, and all those other sects of Christianity are wrong? Wouldn't they say that they're the ones with the truth of Christianity, and you are the one that got it wrong?
Please provide a method that can demonstrate that you are the one that got it right.
Not to mention, that yes, scientists do disagree on some aspects of theories. But what they don't disagree on is the demonstrable empirical evidence.
Example: some scientists tend to side with string theory, some don't. But they all agree with the evidence. They are in disagreement with where it leads.
Please share an example of theists all agreeing with the evidence, but not on the conclusion.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
Posts: 1761
Threads: 17
Joined: August 2, 2019
Reputation:
6
RE: Question about "faith"
September 28, 2020 at 9:38 pm
(This post was last modified: September 28, 2020 at 10:09 pm by John 6IX Breezy.)
I never said I had truth; only that truth isn't achieved by agreement. And you cannot possibly demonstrate that all scientists agree on anything lol. It's not like they go around taking surveys on such things.
Here's a prediction: If every science paper had to be reviewed by every scientist alive, no paper would ever get published lol.
Posts: 2692
Threads: 11
Joined: May 13, 2013
Reputation:
17
RE: Question about "faith"
September 29, 2020 at 2:15 am
Tsk tsk tsk
Now you're gonna spin some bullshit about peer review?
|