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Possible signs of life found in the atmosphere of Venus
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RE: Possible signs of life found in the atmosphere of Venus
(September 14, 2020 at 4:30 pm)zebo-the-fat Wrote: Possible signs of life found in the atmosphere of Venus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWj85r02Oiw

Phosphene detected in the upper atmosphere of Venus, possible evidence of microbial life?

(Venus is 400+ degrees C on the surface, but much cooler high in the clouds, any bugs would need to be tough though to resist the droplets of sulphuric acid!)

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RE: Possible signs of life found in the atmosphere of Venus
(September 14, 2020 at 6:34 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Nah, just find it difficult to get all worked up over phosphine molecules. Something a little more substantial would be intriguing.

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(September 14, 2020 at 7:05 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: I think geothermal warmed liquid water mantle under ice cover, such as those on Europa, Enceladus, Ganymede, and Callisto, and apparently also Pluto, remain the best prospects in solar system for sizable presence of life even vaguely similar to us in chemistry or organization.   mars might also hosts a remnant subsurface biosphere in geothermal warmed aquifer.   Titan surface is probably far too cold to enable organic chemistry to proceed very far within the age of the solar system.

I also think organic life sign on venus is a mirage.   it seem difficult to imagine an entirely airborne biosphere as no organics will survive even in the lower Venusian atmophere, much less the surface.   how nutrients reach upper atmosphere, or will be steadily replenish is hard to imagine.   i think we simply have not done adequate research to anticipate all the nonbiological chemical processes that can possibly introduce trace amounts of organic molecules into a nonbiological planetary environment.

That's how this ends up being substantial either way, I think.  Let's go out on a limb (lol) and say we don't find life.  We have found something without an immediately obvious explanation.  Yet another way, other than biological processes, for those chemicals to end up where we find them.
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