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October 9, 2020 at 9:10 am
(October 9, 2020 at 8:59 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: (October 9, 2020 at 6:45 am)Athene Wrote: It appears that far LEFT extremists were involved in this plot. An Antifa member was taken into custody along with several members of the Wolverine Watchmen---far left, anti-police anarchists.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gretchen_W...t#Suspects
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan_Militia
(October 9, 2020 at 7:16 am)SUNGULA Wrote: 1. He only identified as a member of Antifa
2. Wolverine Watchmen are a right wing group
Right, anyone can call themselves Antifa.
LOL
That sounds an awful lot like "they aren't REAL Christians" when a xtian is confronted with the LRA or the likes of Fred Phelps....
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October 9, 2020 at 9:10 am
(October 9, 2020 at 7:24 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Not sure if it really matters, though. I don’t think the case can be made that right-wing domestic terrorists are any more or less acceptable than those from the left.
Boru
Antifa isn't a terrorist organization in the first place. This is the creeping infection of the current moment.
If we're comparing antifa to right wing domestic terrorists, then, yes, antifa is absolutely more acceptable than that.
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October 9, 2020 at 10:00 am
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(October 9, 2020 at 9:10 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: (October 9, 2020 at 7:24 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Not sure if it really matters, though. I don’t think the case can be made that right-wing domestic terrorists are any more or less acceptable than those from the left.
Boru
Antifa isn't a terrorist organization in the first place. This is the creeping infection of the current moment.
If we're comparing antifa to right wing domestic terrorists, then, yes, antifa is absolutely more acceptable than that.
I never said they were. But conspiracy to kidnap for political gains is a terrorist act. If an antifa member was involved in this, he’s a terrorist. Doesn’t mean the loosely defined group called antifa is a terrorist organization.
I don’t see how it is more acceptable for an antifa member to try and kidnap an elected official than it is for one of the right-wing wombats to do it.
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October 9, 2020 at 10:40 am
Quote:LOL
That sounds an awful lot like "they aren't REAL Christians" when a xtian is confronted with the LRA or the likes of Fred Phelps....
The difference being they are trying to distance themselves for those people . I'm saying we don't have any proof he was actually Antifa
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October 9, 2020 at 11:26 am
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(October 9, 2020 at 10:00 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (October 9, 2020 at 9:10 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Antifa isn't a terrorist organization in the first place. This is the creeping infection of the current moment.
If we're comparing antifa to right wing domestic terrorists, then, yes, antifa is absolutely more acceptable than that.
I never said they were. But conspiracy to kidnap for political gains is a terrorist act. If an antifa member was involved in this, he’s a terrorist. Doesn’t mean the loosely defined group called antifa is a terrorist organization.
I don’t see how it is more acceptable for an antifa member to try and kidnap an elected official than it is for one of the right-wing wombats to do it.
Boru
Antifa isn't an organization, it doesn't have membership or members, and it is not in the business of kidnapping elected officials.
I appreciate that you view this through the lens of your experience, but it's important to remember that our situation has little resemblance to the one of your experience, and none whatsoever in this instance.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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October 9, 2020 at 11:52 am
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(October 9, 2020 at 11:26 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: (October 9, 2020 at 10:00 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I never said they were. But conspiracy to kidnap for political gains is a terrorist act. If an antifa member was involved in this, he’s a terrorist. Doesn’t mean the loosely defined group called antifa is a terrorist organization.
I don’t see how it is more acceptable for an antifa member to try and kidnap an elected official than it is for one of the right-wing wombats to do it.
Boru
Antifa isn't an organization, it doesn't have membership or members, and it is not in the business of kidnapping elected officials.
I appreciate that you view this through the lens of your experience, but it's important to remember that our situation has little resemblance to the one of your experience, and none whatsoever in this instance.
Would you agree that someone who considers himself as part of the antifa movement and commits a terrorist act would be, by definition, a terrorist?
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RE: Take them to Detroit,,,,,, Or prison...
October 9, 2020 at 12:01 pm
(October 9, 2020 at 10:00 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (October 9, 2020 at 9:10 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Antifa isn't a terrorist organization in the first place. This is the creeping infection of the current moment.
If we're comparing antifa to right wing domestic terrorists, then, yes, antifa is absolutely more acceptable than that.
I never said they were. But conspiracy to kidnap for political gains is a terrorist act. If an antifa member was involved in this, he’s a terrorist. Doesn’t mean the loosely defined group called antifa is a terrorist organization.
I don’t see how it is more acceptable for an antifa member to try and kidnap an elected official than it is for one of the right-wing wombats to do it.
Boru
In two party politics good and bad are determined by which side of the aisle they're from. It is strictly determined by where you sit.
And if you don't come from one side or the other - both will call you evil.
That by the way - is the definition of bipartisanship.
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October 9, 2020 at 12:04 pm
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As much as someone who considers himself to be the risen christ who commits a terrorist act, sure, Boru.
OLB murdering irony again, I see.
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RE: Take them to Detroit,,,,,, Or prison...
October 9, 2020 at 12:09 pm
(October 9, 2020 at 12:04 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: As much as someone who considers himself to be the risen christ who commits a terrorist act, sure, Boru.
OLB murdering irony again, I see.
Then we’re in agreement.
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October 9, 2020 at 1:24 pm
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(October 9, 2020 at 10:00 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (October 9, 2020 at 9:10 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Antifa isn't a terrorist organization in the first place. This is the creeping infection of the current moment.
If we're comparing antifa to right wing domestic terrorists, then, yes, antifa is absolutely more acceptable than that.
I never said they were. But conspiracy to kidnap for political gains is a terrorist act. If an antifa member was involved in this, he’s a terrorist. Doesn’t mean the loosely defined group called antifa is a terrorist organization.
I don’t see how it is more acceptable for an antifa member to try and kidnap an elected official than it is for one of the right-wing wombats to do it.
Boru "Antifa" is NOT a organization, but the idea of being against fascism.
Anti fascism= Antifa.
Not to be confused with "Neo Nazis" or "KKK" or "Proudboys".
The fuckers who conspired to kidnap a governor, were assholes simply afraid of change. And that is the core of every hate group in America.
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