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[Quranic Reflection]: acttion against Macron's insult in the light of the Quran.
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: acttion against Macron's insult in the light of the Quran.
(October 29, 2020 at 7:18 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(October 29, 2020 at 7:05 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: So you aren't supposed to hang around people 'cause your holy book says so, yet here you are and here you seem to stay.

You either believe this shit or you don't.  Pick a side.

I wrote a specific topic about why I'm here in 2018:

May 6, 2018 at 6:04 pm
https://atheistforums.org/thread-54806.html

Quote:WinterHold (AtlasS at that time) said:

I'm here to change what outsiders think about the Middle East. I'm here to throw my hand against the dictators of my regions, and the religious institutions of the Middle East, and show people what the Quran really said.

I don't "hang out around people who make fun of my religion"; Atheistforums.org provide solid grounds for me to stay away from people making fun of my faith.
No one is interested in what the Quran really says.

You aren't winning converts here.
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#22
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: acttion against Macron's insult in the light of the Quran.
Your cherry-picked verses detract NOTHING from all the bullshit done in its name. That's not an aberration - that's a function of it.
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself — and you are the easiest person to fool." - Richard P. Feynman
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: acttion against Macron's insult in the light of the Quran.
(October 29, 2020 at 7:25 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:
(October 29, 2020 at 7:18 pm)WinterHold Wrote: I wrote a specific topic about why I'm here in 2018:

May 6, 2018 at 6:04 pm
https://atheistforums.org/thread-54806.html


I don't "hang out around people who make fun of my religion"; Atheistforums.org provide solid grounds for me to stay away from people making fun of my faith.
No one is interesting in what the Quran really says.

You aren't winning converts here.

Topic is from 2018; and don't contain a single verse from the Quran arewethereyet xD
lol

My account here is even older:
Registration Date: January 19, 2013

But you shouldn't be offended at all; I mean the forum rules allow me to be here Smile
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: acttion against Macron's insult in the light of the Quran.
(October 29, 2020 at 7:39 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(October 29, 2020 at 7:25 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: No one is interesting in what the Quran really says.

You aren't winning converts here.

Topic is from 2018; and don't contain a single verse from the Quran arewethereyet xD
lol

My account here is even older:
Registration Date: January 19, 2013

But you shouldn't be offended at all; I mean the forum rules allow me to be here Smile

By being here your are going against that your religion teaches - what your holy book commands.

Therefore, I don't find you to be terribly believable when you decide you should be the one to instruct us, or anyone else.
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: acttion against Macron's insult in the light of the Quran.
(October 29, 2020 at 7:18 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(October 29, 2020 at 7:05 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: So you aren't supposed to hang around people 'cause your holy book says so, yet here you are and here you seem to stay.

You either believe this shit or you don't.  Pick a side.

I wrote a specific topic about why I'm here in 2018:

May 6, 2018 at 6:04 pm
https://atheistforums.org/thread-54806.html

Quote:WinterHold (AtlasS at that time) said:

I'm here to change what outsiders think about the Middle East. I'm here to throw my hand against the dictators of my regions, and the religious institutions of the Middle East, and show people what the Quran really said.

I don't "hang out around people who make fun of my religion"; Atheistforums.org provide solid grounds for me to stay away from people making fun of my faith.

Lets focus on the last line in your post above.

Show anyone here where you were forced to sign up to this website and post here? Nobody said you were forced by law to hang out with people you don't like. So why are you here? Just because you are not face to face with us, you still are "hanging out" with us.

I was bullied as a kid, in my case I had nowhere to go. I had to live in the house my parents provided me. I also had to go outside  by myself, to walk to school or to the bus stop. I had got bullied on the bus, and at school, both things I had no choice in.

But you are an adult, and I find it logically absurd that an allegedly "all powerful" being would need the help of any mere mortal to defend it. If your alleged god were real, it should be quite easy for it to squash me like a bug without your help.

Now again, I make the same argument to Christians and Jews too. I find such an alleged being petty if it's biggest concern is being called names, in a world of childhood cancer, childhood famine, natural disasters, and pandemics. If I were an "all powerful" God, the last fucking thing I would worry about is being called names. And if I were all powerful, I damned sure wouldn't need or ask for humans to defend me.
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: acttion against Macron's insult in the light of the Quran.
Must be the blood alcohol level; a rare occasion I agree with Brian37.
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself — and you are the easiest person to fool." - Richard P. Feynman
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: acttion against Macron's insult in the light of the Quran.
(October 29, 2020 at 3:10 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(October 29, 2020 at 8:13 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: Okay.

So if some one 'Makes fun of' the belief system ( "How many Islamists does it take to change a light bulb?" )

You are happy to walk away? Cool.   Thumb up

What if some one is insulting towards your belief system, or calls aspects of its nature into question. ( "How many babies did Allah drown in the global  flood?" )

What is your take on things, then?   Thinking

Not at work.  

Yes I'll just walk away and let them insult the faith; God has spoken and gave his command already in Sura 4, verse 140.

As for the "flood"; God is a creator of everything; so don't do "Anthropomorphism" with him or else you'll get everything wrong and you won't understand what he is.

God is not "human", he is not a "humanoid". You can't get angry with "the sun" for giving a child "a sun burn"; you can't get angry with "water" for drowning an infant. You just accept it, because no matter what you do these forces exist before you, they are stronger than you, they are your universe itself.

Allah is the creator of these forces. If the sun and water are so strong; what about their creator?

He described himself in the Quran here:

Quote:Sura 6, The Quran:
https://quran.ksu.edu.sa/index.php?l=en#...rans=en_sh

( 102 )   That is Allah, your Lord; there is no deity except Him, the Creator of all things, so worship Him. And He is Disposer of all things.
( 103 )   Vision perceives Him not, but He perceives [all] vision; and He is the Subtle, the Acquainted.

 So... bascally what you're implying is that you're 'Worshipping' the Volcano/Tornado/Tidalwave generate/Solarflare spewer in the hope that it does not kill you?

Don't get me wrong. Am I miscarachterizing your diety? Your diety does/is the cause of such immense and devastating things, right?

All the while, other than your hopes and prayers, being powerless against said thing?

Thinking
 Nope, I do not understand such mental processes on the part of worshipers.

Not at work.
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: acttion against Macron's insult in the light of the Quran.
(October 29, 2020 at 7:55 pm)Sal Wrote: Must be the blood alcohol level; a rare occasion I agree with Brian37.

Even a blind squirrel...
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: acttion against Macron's insult in the light of the Quran.
Quote:Terrorism and killing are not how a Muslim deals with others making fun of their faith; but simply they boycott their products and ignore them -leave them and go sit elsewhere-. Boycotting is a freedom of expression too; Macron
Any belief that can't handle being made fun of is a weak belief

Quote:I can take a few cartoons, but I would also like to draw Jewish Zionists back..

Is that allowed?
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Tell me are Jews or Christians  storming magazine companies and killing people over this
"Change was inevitable"


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Hilarious
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