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The absurdity of the idea that a complex lifeform could be designed?!?!
#11
RE: The absurdity of the idea that a complex lifeform could be designed?!?!
At work.

Coffee

So fallacies of 'Incredulity' along with a rather stunted and ignorant understanding of nature, hence reality is it Chess Pigeon/Prycejosh1987?

Coffee
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#12
RE: The absurdity of the idea that a complex lifeform could be designed?!?!
(December 22, 2020 at 1:38 pm)Prycejosh1987 Wrote:
(December 19, 2020 at 11:49 am)Lawz Wrote: The miniscule and precise working of 10,000 different cell types working in perfect concert...designed?! Fuck off I'm rolling in the isles..it makes 747 fabrication look akin to the simplicity of mixing a glass of squash. Lolz at the creationist "brain."

I think just as morals came and started from a supreme being, design also comes from God. The human body is very defined and It takes a God to create a conscience, something that animals to not adhere to. We feel pain and know things and its impossible for these things to come through natural processes but its totally possible for us receive these things through spiritual natures. If everything randomly came into existence then things could of been different but there is repetition.

How do you know this?
Where is your evidence for this god, and if he "designed" the human body why did he do such a bad job of it?
Only an idiot would design a common opening for breathing, speaking, eating and drinking!
Also strange that most other animals share these faults... this clearly points to evolved change rather than a separate design
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#13
RE: The absurdity of the idea that a complex lifeform could be designed?!?!
I like the example of the fact the mammalian eye has the blood vessels directly on top of the rod and cone cells of the retina instead of, for example, the octopus and man of war eyes which have the blood vessels neatly tucked out of the way BEHIND the retina. Evolution fail much!
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#14
RE: The absurdity of the idea that a complex lifeform could be designed?!?!
We're pretty sure that we're not alone in feeling things or knowing things. If this is the nature of gods design - if this is the specific thing that a christian person thinks that it takes a god to create and maintain, if this, of all things, is spirit...then perhaps they should have a more expansive view of their christian brotherhod?
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RE: The absurdity of the idea that a complex lifeform could be designed?!?!
(December 22, 2020 at 1:38 pm)Prycejosh1987 Wrote: I think just as morals came and started from a supreme being, design also comes from God. The human body is very defined and It takes a God to create a conscience, something that animals to not adhere to. We feel pain and know things and its impossible for these things to come through natural processes but its totally possible for us receive these things through spiritual natures. If everything randomly came into existence then things could of been different but there is repetition.

It's this sort of crock of crap that reflects badly on those that believe it.

You go down to a blue flag beach, certified clean and perfect for swimming. Right through the middle is a sewer. What would you think of the idiot who sanctioned that?

And thus the human body and reproductive organs - a sewer right in the middle of the play area.

No intelligent design there.
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#16
RE: The absurdity of the idea that a complex lifeform could be designed?!?!
(December 19, 2020 at 11:49 am)Lawz Wrote: The miniscule and precise working of 10,000 different cell types working in perfect concert...designed?! Fuck off I'm rolling in the isles..it makes 747 fabrication look akin to the simplicity of mixing a glass of squash. Lolz at the creationist "brain."

The current pandemic is just one example against the argument of an all loving, all powerful deity that had humans in mind.

Out of all the evolution on this planet, bacteria and viruses are the most abundant form of DNA/RNA replication. Even cockroaches outnumber humans. 

I find it fucking absurd, that in a universe of an estimated 2 trillion galaxies, in which  our solar system is part of only one galaxy full of billions of suns, of which our sun is only 4 billion years old, with a planet that went from a molten rock, to an ice ball, to our current blue orb, which has suffered 5 mass extinction events, to have anyone claim the bullshit mythology of antiquity has any reasonable explanation as to scientific fact. 

Theists confuse mechanics as implying cognitive intent in comic book super hero form. If a super cognition was the cause, then why don't people worship Thor every time they see lightening during a storm? If everything has a super cognition causing it, then why don't people worship Pele the Hawaiian volcano god?
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#17
RE: The absurdity of the idea that a complex lifeform could be designed?!?!
(January 5, 2021 at 10:33 am)Brian37 Wrote: Dead Horse
(December 19, 2020 at 11:49 am)Lawz Wrote: The miniscule and precise working of 10,000 different cell types working in perfect concert...designed?! Fuck off I'm rolling in the isles..it makes 747 fabrication look akin to the simplicity of mixing a glass of squash. Lolz at the creationist "brain."

The current pandemic is just one example against the argument of an all loving, all powerful deity that had humans in mind.

Out of all the evolution on this planet, bacteria and viruses are the most abundant form of DNA/RNA replication. Even cockroaches outnumber humans. 

I find it fucking absurd, that in a universe of an estimated 2 trillion galaxies, in which  our solar system is part of only one galaxy full of billions of suns, of which our sun is only 4 billion years old, with a planet that went from a molten rock, to an ice ball, to our current blue orb, which has suffered 5 mass extinction events, to have anyone claim the bullshit mythology of antiquity has any reasonable explanation as to scientific fact. 

Theists confuse mechanics as implying cognitive intent in comic book super hero form. If a super cognition was the cause, then why don't people worship Thor every time they see lightening during a storm? If everything has a super cognition causing it, then why don't people worship Pele the Hawaiian volcano god?

‘Super cognition’ doesn’t mean what you think it means.

Pele is a goddess, not a god.

There ARE people who worship Thor and Pele (though these aren’t usually the same people).

Boru
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#18
RE: The absurdity of the idea that a complex lifeform could be designed?!?!
(January 5, 2021 at 12:15 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(January 5, 2021 at 10:33 am)Brian37 Wrote: Dead Horse

The current pandemic is just one example against the argument of an all loving, all powerful deity that had humans in mind.

Out of all the evolution on this planet, bacteria and viruses are the most abundant form of DNA/RNA replication. Even cockroaches outnumber humans. 

I find it fucking absurd, that in a universe of an estimated 2 trillion galaxies, in which  our solar system is part of only one galaxy full of billions of suns, of which our sun is only 4 billion years old, with a planet that went from a molten rock, to an ice ball, to our current blue orb, which has suffered 5 mass extinction events, to have anyone claim the bullshit mythology of antiquity has any reasonable explanation as to scientific fact. 

Theists confuse mechanics as implying cognitive intent in comic book super hero form. If a super cognition was the cause, then why don't people worship Thor every time they see lightening during a storm? If everything has a super cognition causing it, then why don't people worship Pele the Hawaiian volcano god?

‘Super cognition’ doesn’t mean what you think it means.

Pele is a goddess, not a god.

There ARE people who worship Thor and Pele (though these aren’t usually the same people).

Boru

WHAT THE FUCK?

Since when does "super natural" which means "beyond nature" have a fucking gender?

God/gods/goddesses are all the same human projection of anthropomorphic BULLSHIT.

I don't recall attaching a penis or vagina to mythology.
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#19
RE: The absurdity of the idea that a complex lifeform could be designed?!?!
Since people found it useful to explain gender by reference to myths.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#20
RE: The absurdity of the idea that a complex lifeform could be designed?!?!
(January 5, 2021 at 12:30 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Since people found it useful to explain gender by reference to myths.

Not disputing that. I am saying clinging to that mythology is bullshit. Just because people thought that, does not mean humans should cling to that.
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