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Harriett Tubman will replace Andrew Jackson on the $20 bill
RE: Harriett Tubman will replace Andrew Jackson on the $20 bill
(January 27, 2021 at 4:13 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Maybe because Freddie (note correct spelling) Mercury wasn’t English, Canadian, or Australian. It’s almost unheard of for countries to put foreigners on their currency.

Boru

Technically, he is from Zanzibar and probably would have stayed there if not for the Zanzibar Revolution in 1964, when he and his family fled (he was 17.) That said, during all the time he did anything of note, he lived in the UK, and as far as I can find, never returned even to visit his old stomping grounds. Also, Queen were recently celebrated on a coin from the Royal Mint. That said, it's a £5 coin that isn't in general circulation.

(January 27, 2021 at 4:25 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: -Elizabeth II isn’t the ‘ruler’ Canada or Australia.

-Canada and Australia are both independent, sovereign nations.

-Canada and Australia were never part of ‘England’ to begin with. Look it up.

Boru

Other Brian is actually right about this. Canada and Australia are still part of the Commonwealth of Nations, and, as such, Queen Elizabeth II is still technically a ruler in their government. In practice, their role may be ceremonial, but she's still a ruler, technically. Also, until about 1707, Canada (and their half of what would become the United States) was still officially under the control of England, since the official union of Great Britain didn't really exist until then.

(January 27, 2021 at 1:50 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: The arguments may not reflect reality, the arguer may be incompetent, but they are consistently and specifically presenting a worldview in which people are devalued and disenfranchised for their whiteness.  

Ironically, I suspect that our tendency to call them ignorant or assume that they're edgelords is a way to avoid the uncomfortable reality of what they keep insisting to be true of themselves, and keep insisting that everyone else is lying about.  Some of them might lean on those euphemizing fictions themselves.  In their minds, they're simultaneously not racist -and- we all secretly agree with these racist things they've been arguing.  Roll that around for a minute and you might start to wonder just what any of us would have to do before they believed that racism was involved - aside from disenfranchising and shaming and genociding the whites, obviously.
I was going to add a bit about that and how whenever this is pointed out to him, he also goes into tantrum mode, but I figured that was just beating a dead horse and that he'd just zero in on that and throw another tantrum and ignore all the other points.
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RE: Harriett Tubman will replace Andrew Jackson on the $20 bill
(January 27, 2021 at 4:35 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:
(January 27, 2021 at 4:13 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Maybe because Freddie (note correct spelling) Mercury wasn’t English, Canadian, or Australian. It’s almost unheard of for countries to put foreigners on their currency.

Boru

Technically, he is from Zanzibar and probably would have stayed there if not for the Zanzibar Revolution in 1964, when he and his family fled (he was 17.) That said, during all the time he did anything of note, he lived in the UK, and as far as I can find, never returned even to visit his old stomping grounds. Also, Queen were recently celebrated on a coin from the Royal Mint. That said, it's a £5 coin that isn't in general circulation.

(January 27, 2021 at 4:25 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: -Elizabeth II isn’t the ‘ruler’ Canada or Australia.

-Canada and Australia are both independent, sovereign nations.

-Canada and Australia were never part of ‘England’ to begin with. Look it up.

Boru

Other Brian is actually right about this. Canada and Australia are still part of the Commonwealth of Nations, and, as such, Queen Elizabeth II is still technically a ruler in their government. In practice, their role may be ceremonial, but she's still a ruler, technically. Also, until about 1707, Canada (and their half of what would become the United States) was still officially under the control of England, since the official union of Great Britain didn't really exist until then.


Mercury’s citizenship would make him British, not English. Brian doesn’t seem to grasp the distinction.

Elizabeth is not ‘part of the government’ in any Commonwealth nation - she is a head of state (not a head of government) with a few ceremonial functions. This is a far cry from being a ‘ruler’.

I accept the correction about Canada being part of England.

Boru
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